FFS just because you CAN go to 'The Range' doesn't mean you should

[Torri67]

Nor any of the other shops unfairly dodging the lockdown closure by claiming they are essential (someone on another thread's, local shoe shop, local branch of Next) etc.

It's bloody ridiculous. The more we are out and about, the more this virus has a chance to keep spreading. Don't click and collect from your local business, place orders online from them or phone up and arrange delivery.

Just stop f**king going out. If you don't HAVE to go out for work, essential shopping - ie food or medicine, just stay at home.

If you don't, don't moan when bloody Boris is on our screens on 2nd December saying the lockdown is extended.

I'm not sure why people are being so nasty and rude to the OP.

It's clearly a threat born out of sheer and utter frustration. She is seeing hundreds of people in shops, non essential shopping etc and anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that it's at least a small contributor to the spread of the virus.

Personally I'm not of the same thought of the op; I'm still going to coffee shops, visiting shops etc (although I am limiting my visits and using masks, hand hygiene and social distancing). But there is still no need to be so rude to her when she is pointing out that we really shouldn't be out and about unless necessary.

Anyone who thinks there will be a vaccine that gets this under control is naive at best.

Most of the covid martyrs I know are the WFH/work safe jobs unlikely to be made redundant like doctors/teachers etc/stay at home parents who can home educate their kids/retirees who aren't going to be paying for this mess. The rest of us who are none of those rely on jobs to keep a roof over our heads and our children fed. Another lockdown just puts more people in the unemployment queues

Which one are you OP???

As much as I never really go anywhere, I can't be doing with posts like this - as long as people are wearing their masks (obvs if possible) and social distancing, what's your problem?
Just be sensible and keep your distance from others.
You can't just hide away scared for ever.
Well, you can, but it's not very healthy.

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@LastGoldenDaysOfSummer

So many replies here show why the lock down was needed in the first place and why it won't work.

Very sad.

Absolutely. You can’t fix stupid

Never been to The Range . Had to google it . Is it lime Dunelm Mill ?

*like not lime

@Derekhello

Thinking a lockdown even if all of our windows are sealed shut and we are shot if we leave our houses will eradicate an endemic virus is the definition of stupid.

Oh goodie, the self-appointed, ultra-virtuous covid police are back. What have they been doing since May? Just sitting at home and salivating over the chances of a second wave and a PROPER lockdown?

So over all this nonsense. People going shopping is about as zero risk as you can get.

@RaspberryCoulis

Oh goodie, the self-appointed, ultra-virtuous covid police are back. What have they been doing since May? Just sitting at home and salivating over the chances of a second wave and a PROPER lockdown?

So over all this nonsense. People going shopping is about as zero risk as you can get.

They are the best thing about lockdown

I see where you're coming from, but my strategy to survive the first lockdown was to focus on what I could control and try to let go of what I couldn't, mainly the actions of other people. In addition, I genuinely think that this is what the government wants. If the people are arguing amongst themselves and assigning blame for the infection rate or specific measures being put in place, it deflects attention away from the real issues, namely the failure of our "world beating" track and trace system and the long-term underfunding of our NHS. It's much more difficult to assign blame here as we can't see either of these things like we can see someone walking into the range and coming out with only non-essential items.

JRose

Because shops like The Range are usually placed on good bus routes for people to access who do not have a high/higher income.

They sell food and some essential goods.

They - like B&M/Wilko's etc are a good type of shop easily accessible for those most in need, at a lower cost.

Some of us give a shit about everyone being able to access goods and services in times like these.

I can (now) afford to shop in central city locations/isolated farm shops/out of town locations.

Many, many other people cannot. That is why threads like this deriding people who need to shop at places like TR/Wilkos/B&M is cuntish goady fuckery.

Well they are allowed to stay open so why shouldn't people go if they feel they need to?! I think YABU

The one near me also has an Iceland branch inside so people could be using that shop too

I was waiting for these threads to start.

Must nip out to B&M in a bit for a huge bucket of popcorn.

What has being a high earning family with cars got to do with going to the Range, they don't care what you earn just so long as they get you to part with a couple of quid.

Boots aren't furloughing their beauty staff so they can get sales from people going in for healthcare items. Totally irresponsible as make up is far from essential (especially when you can't go out anyway!). I agree with OP, people are being selfish. It's not a lot to ask to just stay at home. What must people who lived through the war think of these people moaning about their "hardships"!

YANBU. This thread just shows many people’s attitudes though, they won’t follow rules because they won’t be told what to do. It’s annoying but it’s best for your own mental health if you don’t get worked up about these people. They won’t change, in fact, the more you say anything, the more they dig their heels in like the naughty kid at school, trying to be cooler and funnier than the last person with their reply. 🙄

@Quaagars

As much as I never really go anywhere, I can't be doing with posts like this - as long as people are wearing their masks (obvs if possible) and social distancing, what's your problem? Just be sensible and keep your distance from others. You can't just hide away scared for ever. Well, you can, but it's not very healthy.

Me too.

The law is clear. Everyone needs to act witin in. What people don't need to do is go around judging people for acting within their own personal, tightened up stance.

If the law allows shopping for "essential" items and has allowed The Range to remain open as part of that then then people are fine to act within those constraints.

This lockdown won’t work op. I’ve sent 2 kids to different secondaries today. Between them, 18 known cases of Covid, the others hushed up. You can’t tell me that someone going to the range (I don’t know wtf the range is anyway) is comparable to the school situation.

@jomaIone

No one is catching Covid on a quick trip to the range.

Exactly. The risk is from close contact in crowded, confined spaces, and increases the longer the contact is. The Range won't be crowded as they will limit how many are going in, they tend to be large high ceiling buildings so definitely not confined spaces, and it's very easy to avoid close contact in there. You are also not in there for hours at a time.

@Ansjovis

Completely right and despite people’s risk assessments on covid it is fairly baffling to me that people cannot see the ‘divide and conquer’ strategy of government.

@Teateaandmoretea

Our economy would have been significantly less harmed if we took some collective responsibility and didn’t continually breach the rules as then lockdowns like this wouldn’t be as necessary.

This government has been awful in its response including trying the pretend that the mythical great British spirit will somehow protect us from this virus. If there was greater critical thinking and scientific understanding in this country (and others of course) we would be in a significantly better position.

OP, I kind of agree, people don’t seem to be able to stay in and look for excuses to go out (me included) but at the end of the day these places are still open so people are going to go there aren’t they?

And yes, it’s likely we will be in lockdown for a lot longer than 4 weeks because the lockdown isn’t really a lockdown as most places are still open, we haven’t been told we can’t go out, we have been advised to only go out if necessary and anything can be made ‘necessary’.

@SpeckledyHen

Never been to The Range . Had to google it . Is it lime Dunelm Mill ?

Yes, in terms of the home stuff, but The Range sells food and other bits that Dunhelm doesn't. I have a Dunhelm and The Range by me, within three doors of each other.

On the back of a massive estate, so people can walk there. Also on a good bus route as pp mentioned.

The only effective thing the government could do would be to close schools and universities, but because they haven't invested any support, money or time into sorting a remote learning infrastructure and planning sustainable provisions for those who cannot learn from home, or protecting parents who cannot work and look after their children but need to; that won't happen. The other option would have been to actually make sure schools had a chance of opening sustainably with realistic but effective measures that aren't ridiculously disruptive, but again, that didn't happen so here we are. If people want something they will still buy it, either online or by heading to a shop that is open, along with a load of other people to get it. It's a sham, and it's a shame for small business owners.