FFS just because you CAN go to 'The Range' doesn't mean you should

[Torri67]

Nor any of the other shops unfairly dodging the lockdown closure by claiming they are essential (someone on another thread's, local shoe shop, local branch of Next) etc.

It's bloody ridiculous. The more we are out and about, the more this virus has a chance to keep spreading. Don't click and collect from your local business, place orders online from them or phone up and arrange delivery.

Just stop f**king going out. If you don't HAVE to go out for work, essential shopping - ie food or medicine, just stay at home.

If you don't, don't moan when bloody Boris is on our screens on 2nd December saying the lockdown is extended.

@IcedPurple well it stands to reason that the more people going out for non essential reasons the more spread of covid there will be!

It also stands to reason that when shops have gone to considerable trouble and expense to limit numbers, install screens and make masks and social distancing compulsory, then virus spread should be minimal, especially given that most people spend only a short time in shops. I believe sage have said that retain has an insignificant impact on R rates.

I take it you have no actual evidence to the contrary to share with us 'imbeciles'?

@Ihaveyourback well the longer people use any excuse under the sun not to stay at home then the longer we will be stuck with all the restrictions!! So the people who are suffering mentally will have to suffer even more for far longer because other people want to go and buy sparkling lights and tinsel!

I hate it when people bring their jobs into this like it makes them a bloody expert, but fuck it. I will.

I’m a mental health nurse. I’ve worked in secure units but also in the community.

There are people who will Jill themselves if they have to stay inside. Getting out to the fucking Range to buy a piece of crap for £1 that they don’t need could honestly make all the difference to them still being alive next week.

And yes I swore. Because it makes me angry. Life isn’t black or white.

@IcedPurple well I drove past my local range and B&M today and both had huge queues outside with no social distancing ( I was on a school run before you ask why I wasn't staying at home). If it's not essential then there's absolutely no need to go out for it!!

@Ihaveyourback spot on.

That is just ridiculous and a callous post wewill and I am sure you don't mean to be so hideously unkind.
A few people buying baubles really is going to do precisely nothing to the R rate ffs! Maybe if they were drinking and partying and snogging in the aisles - it would be different, but given the range has not offered this to date I think it is safe to say it will change nothing.

You do know the rate of infection in shops is absolutely tiny don't you.

You keep doing you hun. The rest of us will do the same.

@WankPuffins and what if that person who puts their mental health before anything else then goes on to infect a shop assistant or member of the public who then passes it on to someone vulnerable and it actually costs them their life? Is that ok?

@Ihaveyourback I will do me Thankyou and you continue with your selfish attitude and hope that you are right!

@wewillmeetagain

Mental health is as important that health, if not more.
Without good mental health physical health is pointless.

Bad mental health kills as well wewill for goodness sake you can't be this uneducated surely. Poor mental health is likely to kill more people in the long run than covid ever will.

[quote wewillmeetagain]@IcedPurple well I drove past my local range and B&M today and both had huge queues outside with no social distancing ( I was on a school run before you ask why I wasn't staying at home). If it's not essential then there's absolutely no need to go out for it!! [/quote]
Good thing you don't get to dictate to others what is and is not 'essential'. These shops are legally allowed to remain open and people are legally required to shop there. There's nothing you can do about it, so I suggest you stop being so cross. Stress is known to lower the immune response, which is likely a much bigger risk than 'imbeciles' shopping for 'non-essentials' at The Range.

@wewillmeetagain the chances of that are small.

I will continue to fight the corner of the people I care for (I’m on maternity leave so I feel crap enough as it is that I’m no it there for them right now).

But mental health is so complex. I’m taking about quite severe cases. People who probably should be getting far more help than community visits. All I know is my colleagues were heartbroken during the first lockdown trying to keep them on an even keel and out of hospital.

[quote wewillmeetagain]@WankPuffins and what if that person who puts their mental health before anything else then goes on to infect a shop assistant or member of the public who then passes it on to someone vulnerable and it actually costs them their life? Is that ok?[/quote]
@wewillmeetagain

1. I would think the chances of someone masked up in the baubles aisle of The Range is going to pass Covid on to anyone.

1. Every time any of us steps out of the house, we might catch something, pick up a virus which we transmit to someone else at home, get run over, get hit by a falling chimney, have a random heart attack or stroke... the list is endless. In fact, even if we sequestered ourselves entirely at home for our threescore years and ten, we would still die at the end of it.

People will die, whatever happens. The Covidophiles seem to have forgotten this.

The levels of some people's 'what ifs' are ridiculous.

@wewillmeetagain there is also the possibility that some of the people o worked with would physically kill someone else under great stress.

I completely get that mental health is important but let's not kid ourselves that the vast majority of people nipping out for Xmas decs etc are doing so because they are depressed! The vast majority are doing it because they are bored, selfish, thoughtless etc! The transmission will be far higher for people just shopping aimlessly because when people are browsing they will pick something up have a look put it down then move along and do again with something else! Please don't say that the stores go round disinfecting every single item of stock because they absolutely don't!

The Range had some really nice outside lights last year, wonder if they do this year......

The transmission will be far higher for people just shopping aimlessly because when people are browsing they will pick something up have a look put it down then move along and do again with something else!

All the evidence suggests that transmission via touching objects is miniscule. Supermarkets have been open all along and there have been no cases linked to infected beans cans or packets of tea.

Inane exclamation marks do not an argument make.

Christ it's come to a sad state when going to the range is a treatment for mental ill health.

@HMSSophie

Christ it's come to a sad state when going to the range is a treatment for mental ill health.

Yep. Awful, isn’t it.

I thought we were only meant to go shopping for essentials not to have a trip out.

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

I thought we were only meant to go shopping for essentials not to have a trip out.

Shops are alllowed to sell all items they have in stock - including those deemed 'non-essential', and shoppers are allowed to purchase them.

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

I thought we were only meant to go shopping for essentials not to have a trip out.

How do you know it's not 'essential" though? Your essentials will be someone else's non essentials. You don't get to dictate what others can and can't buy.

@IcedPurple you are just being deliberately obtuse! People tend to know what they want when they go food shopping especially during this pandemic! It's not the same as people just wondering around a warm shop fiddling with their mask because they are hot and sweaty and then touching an item they are looking at, etc etc!!! Lots of people don't bother sanitising the trolley or their hands don't get me started on the amount of shops that have hand sanitizer that hundreds of people are having to pick up to use each day, kind of defeats the object!

Inane exclamation marks do not an argument make.

Writing in hybrid Shakespeare-Yoda speak does not an intelligent comment result.