FFS just because you CAN go to 'The Range' doesn't mean you should

[Torri67]

Nor any of the other shops unfairly dodging the lockdown closure by claiming they are essential (someone on another thread's, local shoe shop, local branch of Next) etc.

It's bloody ridiculous. The more we are out and about, the more this virus has a chance to keep spreading. Don't click and collect from your local business, place orders online from them or phone up and arrange delivery.

Just stop f**king going out. If you don't HAVE to go out for work, essential shopping - ie food or medicine, just stay at home.

If you don't, don't moan when bloody Boris is on our screens on 2nd December saying the lockdown is extended.

Shopping is actually a pretty low risk activity as long as you don't hang about, mask up properly, go at quiet times, use handgel etc. It's being in an enclosed badly ventilated space for long periods of time that really puts you at risk of a bad dose of Covid.

Would I go Christmas shopping in a busy shopping centre on a weekend going up to Christmas? Not on your Nellie. At a quiet time, quick in and out, keeping moving? Very probably.

Kids all at school, many many shops open, millions of us still at work but with a mask on trying to SD but knowing it often doesn't happen, takeaways open. WHAT LOCKDOWN? 🤷🏻‍♀️

As long as you're following all the guidlines that we've been told make somewhere "covid secure" I can't see that popping into Next is in any way risky.

@Covidiot agree with a lot of that - the government sent thousands of people to live in halls of residence and then seemed surprised when the rate went up suddenly and sharply. There is evidence that vitamin d may have as much effect as some of the early vaccines but people aren’t even being told to take it.

I think though blaming ‘rule breakers’ shows a lack of critical thinking. It’s the governments strategy to deflect blame.

@cushioncovers

Kids all at school, many many shops open, millions of us still at work but with a mask on trying to SD but knowing it often doesn't happen, takeaways open. WHAT LOCKDOWN? 🤷🏻‍♀️

It's only like the local lockdowns we've seen in the likes of Manchester since the summer, which make no difference, but they shut a little bit more each time (but not the places that the infections actually spread most).

First it was Rule of 6, then no household mixing (but no enforcement so nobody takes any notice), then pubs have to close but can stay open if you order a pie with your pint (tier 3) and now pubs and restaurants have to close.

Problem with half measures is they keep restrictions longer because you won't get on top of it, it's not really designed to. It's just to stop the growth figures (particularly hospital and death rates) getting too much out of control. The question is whether they can achieve that with more half measures.

@Enoughnowstop

resulted in lockdown based on flawed data interpretation and inaccurate projection of future trends

Says who?

As for it won't make a blind bit of difference if the odd person shops in the Range, or anywhere else, of course it will. That's the whole point. The less opportunity the virus has to spread, the easier it will be for everyone in the short, medium and long term. But mainly the short term because you never know when it's going to be you in need of a hospital bed for any reason whatsoever.

Teresa May interestingly enough... yesterday, in parliament. Bojo walked out while she was talking, got told off and had to write her an apology apparently xD

Il be going wherever is open thanks karen ..and just for something to do not for essentials. Because guess what I don’t care anymore and I’ve had enough , call me selfish too(don’t care) thanks for reminding me the range is open il be going in for an unnecessary leisurely browse ,b&m next door hopefully that’s open too.

If I am safe enough to go to work as a teacher, then I’m sure I’d be fine nipping into the range with my mask on.

We are off to homebase today to pick up some paint etc to redecorate during lockdown 2.0. We'll be going in the car and wearing masks when we get there. OP you need to calm down a bit and stop falling into the Tories trap of blaming the general public for the spread - if they had locked down earlier in March, or used the time since then to develop a robust test and trace system then we wouldn't be in this mess.

Back in March I understood the general scared feeling that was about. However we have learned so much more about this virus since so I'm really confused why some people are insisting we are killing millions by making the odd shopping trip here and there.

There are other things than Covid in this world. Mental health is one of those things and if by doing something normal like popping to range helps that (and the economy of course) then I'm all for it.

Being sensible while doing the allowed activities probably has more benefit than risk. Just dont go round licking random strangers or coughing in people's faces.

Some people on mumsnet would properly support this poster (warning its satire, although getting closer to reality)

@Blondiney

What is The Range of which you speak and do we have one in my area??? Feel like I'm missing out!
Google is your friend.

AGH @NullcovoidNovember

Every. Single. Day. In schools too close contact is happening all the time, all. Day!!

Everything that remains open increases viral transmission. Therefore, you need to balance this with the benefits of the specific place remaining open

schools: allows parents to go to work, allows parents to work from home without having to also home school. Allows children to continue being educated, socialise etc. Massive economic and health benefits.

non-essential shops remaining open: allows people to buy non-essential items in person, allows proportion of population to continue working. Small economic benefits.

Sincerely, an epidemiologist.

The Range is my local Iceland, can I go?

What is the Range?

Do you mean golfing range?

I’ll do what I bloody well want to, within the government rules! Some shops don’t deliver so I will visit those when I need something

This Range place looks really good - wish there was one near us!

@Completmentfille

I do think the government have done a really splendid job of making us blame one another rather than them.
We are all individuals and are personally responsible for our own thoughts, words and actions.

@pontypridd It’s a shop in the UK that sells all sorts - household goods, food, garden items, furniture, craft supplies etc. Everything and anything!

Haven't RTWT but it's really starting to annoy me how people think they have a right to judge what is "essential".

Ok, we can probably agree on Christmas decorations not being essential, but any one person might have different views on how essential the following are:

• Bread - nice to have but not essential if you have alternative sources of carbohydrate in the house.
• Tea - is your morning cuppa essential?
• Toys - many people might say not essential, but what if you're stocking up in case your young DC are sent home to self-isolate and you have to wfh while simultaneously caring for them and entertaining them at home for 14 days?
• Baby clothes - baby come early? Well, baby clothes aren't essential. Just wrap it in a towel.
• Kettle/toaster/microwave - if you're unlucky enough for any of these to break during lockdown, well I'm afraid definitely not essential. See above on how your morning cuppa/bread is not essential. And heating up your convenience food is not essential either. Oh what? You've been evicted and living in a bedsit with no cooking facilities with 3 young children? Sorry, microwave still not essential. And don't you dare even think about looking at those colouring pencils in the corner of the shop...

How many of the hypocrites judging others on what is essential or not will be sticking a bottle or two of wine in with their shopping this week?

And this is why we'll be struggling on with this when everywhere else has got back to normal. And wondering why...

bunty We can't just close down. We have to bring it down as much as we can, and carry on. We can't even fund the NHS without a functioning economy. So we won't have beds for the sick and the dying, it is as simple as that.

We keep as much open and operating as possible.

@BuntysTwinkle

And this is why we'll be struggling on with this when everywhere else has got back to normal. And wondering why...

Lockdown doesn't work. It delays things. That's fine, most people not mixing households will have the desired effect.

And this is why we'll be struggling on with this when everywhere else has got back to normal. And wondering why...

No, the reason we'll be struggling on with this is lack of a decent test and trace system.

Look at Asia. ALL non essential shops open. Restaurants open. Schools open. Economy doing well. You know how? Test and trace.