Not really a lockdown is it?

[MummaPI]

I'm confused, thought it was a repeat of March apart from schools but then I hear garden centres are remaining open and open gardens like RHS etc. Surely these are non essential journeys? I can see why they are open but not really a proper lockdown is it?

What I don't understand is why everyone is bothered about children's sport but not adult. I have 2 young adults, 21 and 19, their younger brother gets to go t9 school and see his mates and do PE. DD in particular works full time for the NHS. But her football and the gym are cancelled, and she can't meet up with friends for a Nando's or a drink. We've been in tier 3 too. It's rubbish!

I am bothered about adult sport too - especially at this time of year, and for women. Men can go out for a run in the dark if they want - it's not so easy for women - as ever these restrictions have a disproportionately higher impact on women. And cycling becomes generally difficult at this time of year as it gets dark so early. I do think they should have allowed small group activities outside to continue, regardless of age group.

The risk of outdoor transmission is minimal. And if people are outside, they're not inside!

Through people I know/know off I have noticed a lot more businesses are staying open and staff are still going into offices and working there, rather than from home. It's like many don't really see this as a lockdown at all. Offices that closed last time and people who previously wfh are still working in their offices full or part time. They are capable of wfh but prefer to be in the office, so they are going in and it seems to be okay to decide that.

So it's very much a diluted version since March.

Pisses me off they have stopped kids’ outdoor sports

But your children can still go outside, run around, play and get physical and mental exercise.

They will also still be doing sport at school, including some after school sports clubs.

They will also be mixing all day with friends, and playing out at play/lunch times.

So most children will still be getting a good dose of physical and mental health time.

@Emmie12345

We need to let our kids live their lives in a free and full way

They should be our priority , not those who have lived their lives already

I am clinically vulnerable. I'm 47y with a teenage daughter going through university. I haven't finished living my life, thanks!

As it is, I already have had covid. A month in and I'm still recovering. It was a scary time at points - being rushed to hospital with dangerously high blood pressure, needing ongoing (possible for life now) medication to control it, not being able to breath after climbing a flight of stairs, etc. I'm really hoping that I will be fully recovered soon, though a month in I'm still really easily tired, get breathless if I do too much, have a high rate and my blood pressure is still a bit high even on medication.

I almost certainly picked it up at school, most likely from a symptom free child. There was no where else in my T&T information we could work out it could really come from. And it's no coincidence that other staff and parents from affected classes also tested positive within a fortnight too.

There are people of all ages who are vulnerable, including children.

We need schools to stay open, but that's why some other areas have to close, including some that affect children.

It's all about balancing risks for everyone. I'm sure you will complain if schools closed - well, I'm afraid in order to keep them open other things have to close for a month.

@Aragog

Through people I know/know off I have noticed a lot more businesses are staying open and staff are still going into offices and working there, rather than from home. It's like many don't really see this as a lockdown at all. Offices that closed last time and people who previously wfh are still working in their offices full or part time. They are capable of wfh but prefer to be in the office, so they are going in and it seems to be okay to decide that.

So it's very much a diluted version since March.

The thing is gyms and beauty services such as hairdressers not opening is going to have such an impact on £££ and mental health.

A hairdresser is not as important a need to society as school, nor is a gym because it is not the only place for exercise. Kids or adults can go for a run or bike ride, do exercise at home etc, they can last one month without mixing multiple groups together unnecessarily. Call yourselves heroes for making a small sacrifice if it helps.

I do think garden centres indoor areas should be closed. It should be outdoor sales only.
Indoor mixing of people should be limited to essential only but outdoor activities that can be socially distant should be allowed. That's pretty much what we have in Scotland.

Er.... synths toy shop is staying open I believe??

Garden centres should be open too if that’s the case!

In fact they are closed for lockdown.... just cluck and collect part is open

Sensible!

Tbh nothing much has changed for me either..😬.

Hairdressers might not be important to some people I put on weight during the first lockdown. Feeling and looking like a scruffbag is not conducive to eating healthily. I didnt see the point.
Not helped by the fact that some celebs and politicians hair seemed to stop growing.

@MRex im willing to bet the sacrifices the childless are making so schools can stay open will be forgotten about once all this is over.

@Tallalisa

*Pisses me off they have stopped kids’ outdoor sports

So yet again we e sacrificing our kids’ health physical and mental tp protect the elderly and vulnerable*

Yep.

Pathetic, and people wonder why we are a nation of obese

It's not for "the elderly and vulnerable". Anyone can die from it, any age, no prior conditions. Or have months of debilitating long covid. Thinking this way is part of the problem. I guess no one will agree but if you were as unwell as I am now, almost 8 months on you would reconsider.

Stay safe.

This lockdown makes no sense to me... can't go and eat in restaurants or go to pubs (I haven't done either of these since 1st lockdown so doesn't actually make a difference to me) or visit family as isn't safe, but they are happy to let kids sit in classes of 30, break times they can mix with up to 60 children but then they can't meet friends from school outside school times...
Yes I know education is important but surely health should come 1st and if they look at the charts properly, they will see that covid started rising again in September when schools, colleges and universities opened up to everyone...

Apparently baby and toddler groups can still run...but after school groups cant...?

Your trips to the garden centre sound a lot more fun than mine 😁

No my partner's practice isn't shutting but will probably be emergencies only

You can visit public places as part of the regulations so think the rules in may rather than march

The inconsistency is really getting to me. I’ve been in the classroom with 36 ‘households’ per lesson and my colleagues continue to do so , I can go to a garden centre but my mum an mother in law cannot come into my house next week when I am due to give birth to my first child to offer practical and mental support. I am not relishing the thought of doing this for an unspecified amount of time with no female family support. 😔

Interestingly the Government haven't given any details about the demographic that is being affected with this latest rise in cases; the age-groups nor whether people are dying OF Covid-19 or WITH Covid-19 (pre-existing conditions et al). I think the 'lockdown' is to placate the North of England who are feeling hard-done-by because the South still has relatively few cases. Again, think about the demographics in the North - a larger BAME community, bigger Universties for example.

@SundayReilly

Are dentists closing this time?

I got a message from mine to say it would still be open so and I was overdue an appointment!

a larger BAME community, bigger universities

London, with its very large BAME community, large universities,.and high number of Covid cases (with huge potential for rapid spread due to high density population) is in the South.

But don't worry - you're not alone in overlooking London. The Westminster government is doing the same. Has been since the start.

Mayor Sadiq Khan has been doing his best to fight for his city but he's up against it.

@HolidayLetter

From my perspective, it's a lockdown. I am crying as I write this.

I haven't had any income since March. I have teenagers to house and feed.

It might not be a lockdown to some, but it definitely feels like one to me.

I am so sorry, @HolidayLetter

local library is open round here for click and collect or you can pop in and use the computers
WHsmiths is open along with Boots the chemist
the greengrocers is open and so is costa for take away
and walk round the corner hasn't ever shut

so very different from last time