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Not really a lockdown is it?

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MummaPI · 03/11/2020 19:07

I'm confused, thought it was a repeat of March apart from schools but then I hear garden centres are remaining open and open gardens like RHS etc. Surely these are non essential journeys? I can see why they are open but not really a proper lockdown is it?

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Itmaybeus · 03/11/2020 20:45

Ds said its lock down but worse it's got school to!

pontypridd · 03/11/2020 20:45

They could still go for a walk/run or a bike ride etc at the weekend. They shouldn't get obese in 4 weeks.

It’s not going to be 4 weeks because 4 weeks won’t make enough difference. This will drag on.

And yes- even 4 weeks adds to health problems, especially with kids who have disabilities like CP like my Dd. She needs to keep active and fit or the CP gets worse.

It’s dark by the time they get home. Give us an idea of how to keep active all crammed up in tiny flat after dark.

GuyFawkesHadTheRightIdea · 03/11/2020 20:46

@Witchend

As far as I can see the non-essential shops round here have been very carefully stocking a few things so they have now got notices up saying why they're essential. The crafting shop is selling antibacterial wipes, some of the clothing shops sell handgel, and the sweetshop is also stocking some DIY things. Not sure if they'll get away with it, but they're trying it.
That's great, but the beauty sector (which makes up a large amount of inner city shops - hair salons, nails, tanning and spa, tattoo studios etc) can't exactly do that, can they. There's more closed than just non essential retail. That's before we start on arts, theatre, entertainment venues such as bowling and cinema, hospitality.. that's an awful lot of people with businesses closed right now.
SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 20:47

@Completmentfille

I must admit I am getting sick and tired of all the drama about kids sacrificing their health , education, wellbeing, futures for the elderly and vulnerable.

What about my family who work in arts and theatres who are going to lose their homes? Are they allowed to be upset or is that just drama too?

Absolutely. They must be terribly upset about the dreadful consequences of failed containment.

The tiny hope would be if we actually tightened up this lockdown - so that this time we effectively contained Covid.

Imagine that. We'd be able to reopen theatres and other entertainment venues. Like they already are in all the countries who've already contained.

Meanwhile the silver lining of the pandemic could be achieving something being condemned by the UN didn't (for human rights abuses of vulnerable disabled people).

The benefits system is not fit for purpose. It's no longer a safety net, as many are now finding out.

Many people already know - because they were unfortunate enough to lose their job or get ill before Covid. Also through no fault of their own.

Too few cared if these people lost their homes. Now there's widespread public acknowledgment that people can't survive on benefits, the next stage is changing that.

Staffy1 · 03/11/2020 20:47

How odd to keep garden centres open. Does anyone much use them at this time of year anyway?

SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 20:47

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SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 20:48

@Completmentfille

I must admit I am getting sick and tired of all the drama about kids sacrificing their health , education, wellbeing, futures for the elderly and vulnerable.

What about my family who work in arts and theatres who are going to lose their homes? Are they allowed to be upset or is that just drama too?

Absolutely. They must be terribly upset about the dreadful consequences of failed containment.

The tiny hope would be if we actually tightened up this lockdown - so that this time we effectively contained Covid.

Imagine that. We'd be able to reopen theatres and other entertainment venues. Like they already are in all the countries who've already contained.

Meanwhile the silver lining of the pandemic could be achieving something being condemned by the UN didn't (for human rights abuses of vulnerable disabled people).

The benefits system is not fit for purpose. It's no longer a safety net, as many are now finding out.

Many people already know - because they were unfortunate enough to lose their job or get ill before Covid. Also through no fault of their own.

Too few cared if these people lost their homes. Now there's widespread public acknowledgment that people can't survive on benefits, the next stage is changing that.

Nicknacky · 03/11/2020 20:49

HolidayLetter I’m reading. And I’m so worried about people like you who have been making your businesses work and the rug has been pulled from you.

It’s not all about schools and shops. So many people like you have been life floundering and that isn’t right.

timeforanewstart · 03/11/2020 20:50

Both my ds are going go miss team sports but i understand why they have to be paused , they are going to go for a run on their normal training / game days to keep some fitness levels up although its not the same its best we can do
Plus think we might purchase an exercise bike so we can all keep a bit fitter , can't do anymore lockdown weight
Must admit suprised some of the places that are allowed to open

Remmy123 · 03/11/2020 20:50

Not going to be like March because .. let's face it, it wasn't really necessary

Just like now it's not necessary

More hysteria

timeforanewstart · 03/11/2020 20:52

@missclarke86 is that the same for secondary aa my ds does 2 hrs every other week and no after school clubs on at this time

SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 20:52

Sorry for the double post!
No idea what happened. I've reported the duplicate.

SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 20:54

Sorry for the double post!
No idea what happened. I've reported the duplicate.

LindaEllen · 03/11/2020 20:55

You only have to read threads on here to see how many of the 'rules' people are planning on bending. I'm not doing this .. I'm not doing that .. my personal situation is special so I'm doing this ..

Don't get me wrong, I do agree that there are situations where rules have to be bent or broken, particularly when someone is struggling badly with mental illness .. but a huge number of people are saying they're not doing it because they're bored, or fed up, or because it's not convenient.

I don't know how representative this is of the general feeling in the country as a whole, but I think the people who lose jobs or income through this second lockdown will have done so for no reason, because so many of the people for whom it's easiest to stay home simply choose not to do so, out of principal.

MadameBlobby · 03/11/2020 20:55

@MummaPI

I'm confused, thought it was a repeat of March apart from schools but then I hear garden centres are remaining open and open gardens like RHS etc. Surely these are non essential journeys? I can see why they are open but not really a proper lockdown is it?
Why do you want even more restrictions on your liberty?

You can choose not to go to places that are open.

DenimDrift · 03/11/2020 20:57

@Emmie12345

We need to let our kids live their lives in a free and full way

They should be our priority , not those who have lived their lives already

no ....if people are alive then they have not 'lived their lives already'

what a dumb thing to say!!

you know what, has anyone asked these kids what they would prefer? give up their sports clubs/dance/swimming and god knows what else for a short time in order to extend the lives of older people?

ask them what they would rather....because we could end up with a whole generation of people pissed off and angry that they are the cause of many more deaths than there needed to be!
just because parents thought it best they went swimming every thursday or whatever

SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 20:57

Sorry for the double post!
No idea what happened. I've reported the duplicate.

SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 20:58

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Confuseeeeed25 · 03/11/2020 20:59

We are one of those families you are sacrificing for and we are sorry that it’s such a burden and we do really feel for those who lost money / jobs / homes etc

However it really started to grind on me when we constantly see “ da riding our children’s health/ well being etc for the sake of the vulnerable. Some of those vulnerable like in my house are also children who go to sports clubs to, have families that love them and are enjoying life as well but have gone through some horrific ordeals.
I do think like the whole cause obesity because they can’t do their sports clubs is a parental issue to be honest. You are allowed outside they are allowed to do activities, they are allowed at school so socialising this time.
Go to the park take their bike, scooter , skates , football etc there is no reason why they need to sit on a sofa eating crisps getting obese and unhealthy.

Confuseeeeed25 · 03/11/2020 21:00

Da riding was meant to say the constant 🤣no idea what happened there !

Confuseeeeed25 · 03/11/2020 21:01

Sorry to add to they point
Every single one of us and our kids could be vulnerable tomorrow you never know when your life changes. One day it might be your child or you that people are having to sacrifice sorts clubs for.

MadameBlobby · 03/11/2020 21:01

@SheepandCow

Sorry for the double post! No idea what happened. I've reported the duplicate.
I think it’s MN being glitchy. Each post has an R number of 3. Grin
Waxonwaxoff0 · 03/11/2020 21:03

@DenimDrift anyone who makes children feel that they're "the cause" of people dying is an arsehole. I'm not telling my 7 year old that lives depend on him staying at home, what sort of dick would put that burden on children?