Absolutely sick of the judgement, insults and negativity from both sides of the fence

[Completmentfille]

Just have to say this. This site is a fucking dumpster fire at the moment. On the one hand people going around denying covid is a thing, saying it's "just the flu", we should open everything up, screw the elderly and vulnerable, saying it's a government ploy to control us. On the other hand we have the salivating lockdown crew, calling all and sundry a "covidiot", angrily curtain twitching because their neighbour had their mum round for a cup of tea, shouting "IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU, YOU'RE NOT SPECIAL", blithely dismissing people's very real mental health struggles due to lockdown and insisting "YOUNG AND HEALTHY PEOPLE DIE FROM COVID", when the actual data clearly shows that, by and large, they don't.

Can we have some fucking balance please.

My personal situation is this. I have a mum who suffers badly with her mental health and also has a physical health condition which makes her potentially vulnerable to covid. She lives with my adult sister who also has mental health problems. Until 2 December, I won't see either of them per the lockdown rules. If the lockdown is extended, I'm afraid I will be seeing them because at that point the risk of them being isolated is higher than the risk of me infecting them with coronavirus. I may well pull my DS out of school in order for me to do this. Am I, in any way, the same as someone have 100 people over for a christening party, or someone having eight friends from eight different households round for dinner? Am I just meant to be "community spirited" about this and ignore them for months on end? And please fuck off with Zoom because no it is not the same and no it does not help.

It would be extremely nice if there could be a little bit of empathy on both sides here. It would be nice if the anti lockdowners could stop sneering at the very real concerns of teachers, HCPs and other people at risk of contracting covid from their jobs. It would also be nice if the pro lockdowners could stop being sneery and condescending about people's mental health and stop implying that lots are just making things up to bend the rules. That isn't for you to decide. You don't know what is going on behind closed doors.

[RainbowParadise]

It's quite clear what you are trying to say in your OP but as ever, people have to come on here and start pulling apart every word of your post trying to catch you out in some way, just to argue with you or make themselves feel superior.

I agree, there really should be more balance and empathy on both sides.

[Sevensilverrings]

I get what your saying.
I think so many people are just at the end of their tether, and probably can’t let go of much in real life...so a bunch of strangers on MN get it in the neck. Social media is awful at times like this. It doesn’t bring out the best in humanity, and it’s so divisive. Things can get very heated and very polarised. All the nuance of actually being human and relating to each other’s reality is gone.
There’s plenty of threads on here full of people helping each other too...you just need to dig a bit.the lovely vipers of MN have pulled me through some really awful times. I have faith in all of us, but times are hard and we need to remember real people are on the other side of what we post.
I hope your family are ok through this and you find ways to look after each other, and that someone is looking out for you too. Better times will come.

[pasanda]

Last four posts - perfectly put

OP your point has well and truly been proven

Oh and swear away...

[Completmentfille]

I'm glad some of you got what I was trying to say!!

[BarryWhiteIsMyBrother]

@BertieBloopsMum

That's a very sweary, ranty post from someone who says they want people to show more empathy

I thought exactly the same.

[MsSafina]

You're allowed to see someone who is in your support "bubble" as they call it. So go ahead and see your Mum and sister.

[bathsh3ba]

I think we've all had a rant and even a sweary one from time to time but I agree fully with the sentiment, and wish people would not feel the need to punctuate every sentence with a swear word too. I teach my kids someone who swears in a discussion/debate has lost the argument... If that's true I think both sides have lost the argument - which is probably quite right since there are no winners.

[bibliomania]

People are full of fear and anger and panic. Brains are flooded with cortisol - it's fight or flight but there's no place to run. I don't think people are necessarily choosing to react so angrily. At a certain point, it's brain chemistry.

I realise I sound like an alien, studying humans from afar, but it's just that I'm not one of the worse-off. I genuinely feel for all the bloody must people are experiencing.

[bibliomania]

*misery

[Completmentfille]

You're allowed to see someone who is in your support "bubble" as they call it. So go ahead and see your Mum and sister.

Not technically allowed as my sister is an adult. Only single adults get to be part of support bubbles.

[RufustheSniggeringReindeer]

@lazylinguist

Well said. Anybody who doesn't understand that there are valid and understandable reasons for both being pro and anti the various Covid measures is being a bit dim. As is anyone who thinks that accusing, shaming and insulting people is a useful way of dealing with the pandemic. Virtue-signalling, hypocrisy and aggressive self-righteousness are rife at the moment, and they only make everything worse.

Absolutely

[Mischance]

People at serious risk are bound to feel passionately about those who are potentially increasing that risk by their behaviour and thought processes. What do you expect them to do? - lie back and take it? Pretend they are happy with it? Fine - just do as you will and I am happy to be part of the 1-2%? Shall I order my coffin now?

[Completmentfille]

People at serious risk are bound to feel passionately about those who are potentially increasing that risk by their behaviour and thought processes

Yes, and people like me who have family members at severe risk due to lockdown restrictions are also bound to feel passionately. I understand why you feel the way you do. Do you understand why I feel the way I do?