'the ban includes partners who live elsewhere'

[Muranoandizumi]

Those of you who don't live with your partner and can't form a bubble, will you be seeing them as normal ? Do they expect us to only meet our partner outside and socially distanced for potentially months ?

[Holyrivolli]

Does anyone think that the posters are actually going to follow @SoloMummy’s edicts and not see their partner apart from for walks for the next x weeks? She may have no one who wants to spend time with her but families nowadays come in different shapes and sizes now and even different addresses.

I wouldn’t throw a house party or go on holiday at the moment but there is no way I’m spend the winter only meeting my partner in the park for a walk when we have an inside place where we can spend time chatting, cooking, watching tv like couples do.

[RainbowParadise]

[quote hamstersarse]@SoloMummy

You really are a special kind of awful[/quote]
@hamstersarse she really can't be real, surely? 😂😂😂

[Bambooble]

@Timekeepspassing if DH was still in I would count myself as a single household when he was away, definitely. And yes, not sure if it came across but meant to say it is different to the situation now (still bloody hard though), and I would see a partner if we lived apart.

[Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel]

How do you think military couples manage?

Thank you!

@Ecosse you literally just made that up 🙄

[MrMeeseekscando]

All the people calling it "Just a shag" obviously have extraordinarily mundane sex lives

[celan]

I had written a response to Solomummy, but have deleted it as she is evidently a GF.

[Timekeepspassing]

@Bambooble Yes- hard but in a different way. It is the coming and going that makes the single household thing difficult- sometimes he is away for a two weeks then it can be six etc. And if I was living separate from a long term partner I would want to see him during lockdown- I don’t think you can really compare the military thing in normal times to now. I don’t think I got that across.

[dazzlinghaze]

I remember @SoloMummy from another thread. She was spouting the same shite there too. Her posts just reek of bitterness.

[DownThePlath]

@dazzlinghaze

I remember *@SoloMummy* from another thread. She was spouting the same shite there too. Her posts just reek of bitterness.

I was about to say the same thing. She was just as venomous there too

A bit sad and bitter are we, *@SoloMummy*?

[Kitikat1979]

@ecosse are you in Scotland perchance?

[countrygirl99]

@CandyLeBonBon the thought had crossed my mind.

[HugeAckmansWife]

We crossed swords on that one too. Solo was told repeatedly that it wasn't about sex, that there are extremely good reason why couples may not choose to cohabit. I think I also asked her to explain exactly how couples returning to a separate roof after seeing each other actually increases transmission..I don't recall an answer.

[DollysFlop]

In one way I don't want to add to the pile on @SoloMummy but I also want an explanation of

"You didn't want to find an interim resolution. So abide by the rules"

Exactly what "interim resolution" do you want me to find? Make my lodger homeless? Move my kids to a school 50 miles away? Tell my ex he can't have the kids living round the corner because I'm fucking off to live with DP? Ask my DP to move 50 miles and give up seeing his kids half the week? Ask him to commute to work 2 hours a day? Deprive myself generally of support that is incredibly low risk and much needed?

I repeat. Fuck off. You have NO idea what you are talking about.

[MrMeeseekscando]

Ooohhhh I remember all of that from last time actually

[booboo24]

Solomummy is bitter and would like everyone to be single because she is, she likes to troll threads like this, I've learnt to ignore her because she has clearly never experienced anything beyond a quick shag, you only have to read her ramblings on previous threads. I would say not to get drawn in by her, it gets boring!

[SoloMummy]

@DollysFlop

In one way I don't want to add to the pile on *@SoloMummy* but I also want an explanation of

"You didn't want to find an interim resolution. So abide by the rules"

Exactly what "interim resolution" do you want me to find? Make my lodger homeless? Move my kids to a school 50 miles away? Tell my ex he can't have the kids living round the corner because I'm fucking off to live with DP? Ask my DP to move 50 miles and give up seeing his kids half the week? Ask him to commute to work 2 hours a day? Deprive myself generally of support that is incredibly low risk and much needed?

I repeat. Fuck off. You have NO idea what you are talking about.

Those are your options for your situation.

If the relationship is that important you'd make one or all of them work wouldn't you, given where there's a will there's a way....

So the only assumptions can be the relationship is important enough to break the rules, but not important enough to actually resolve for the interim. So the relationships aren't that high a priority.

[Ginger1982]

[quote Kitikat1979]@ecosse are you in Scotland perchance?[/quote]
Makes even less sense then as we don't have a lockdown here...yet!

[HugeAckmansWife]

Solomummy but that's not an answer. "You'd find a way to make it work" - You were asked HOW? So, how would you solve the issue of kids moving schools, additional travel time, petrol costs? Specifically and exactly? Do you think it would be good parenting to cause such disruption for the sake of prematurely moving in?

I'd also really like you to answer my question which is this: If DP and I see no-one else other than those we would have seen anyway, but return to separate houses at the end of the day / date whatever, how are we increasing the transmission vectors than if we lived together?

[SoloMummy]

At the end of the day, if you cannot form a legal support bubble with a bf you don't live with, then you shouldn't be seeing them beyond outdoors at a distance. End of.

All of the bleating about why posters won't do this are quite simply part of the problem and why yet again we will suffer thousands of unnecessary deaths.

[SoloMummy]

@HugeAckmansWife

Solomummy but that's not an answer. "You'd find a way to make it work" - You were asked HOW? So, how would you solve the issue of kids moving schools, additional travel time, petrol costs? Specifically and exactly? Do you think it would be good parenting to cause such disruption for the sake of prematurely moving in?

I'd also really like you to answer my question which is this: If DP and I see no-one else other than those we would have seen anyway, but return to separate houses at the end of the day / date whatever, how are we increasing the transmission vectors than if we lived together?

Accept if you want to be together that the 2 hours travel and petrol costs are a part of that supposed need.

Stop being so selfish and self centred. This is a bugger scenario than your needs tyat you've chosen not to address.

[HugeAckmansWife]

And my question about transmission? Please explain how my dp and I returning to separate houses increases the risk to anyone?

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

Sorry @HugeAckmansWife my DHs feckless colleague is one possible scenario!

Overnight update is that 2 more colleagues have failed the internal questionnaire and are at home self isolating for 14 days. They are the packing department (heavy steel so a bit of an artform apparently). Twonk had lunch with them while they were packing his last van load.

So that's 6 people in a small firm self isolating because one person ignored everything his employer asked of him - remember he could have been on furlough had he asked.

[HugeAckmansWife]

but if the twonk caught it from his gf, it wouldnt matter if they lived together or not - he would still have caught it from her if they lived together. So unless you're going to say that all adults who go to separate workplaces should go and live separately for the duration, (however long that is) it really doesn't make any odds. There's a massive difference between people going to socialise casually with a few people, that can just as easily be done online, and a committed couple needing to spend time together (not necessarily shagging) over an indefinitely long period of great stress.

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

Sigh No, that's not what I am saying. I am saying he travelled 150 miles each way, partied a bit, then came back to work... a workplace where he could have decided to stay on furlough...

You can see how that is different, can't you?

They all work all over the country as part of their every day job. Travel in separate vehicles, sleep in separate hotel rooms, work as covid safe as possible. They even went to IoM and were effectively quarantined for 5 days whilst they worked. So they are well aware of the differing risks in different areas. They have been asked to take every precaution possible, to take furlough in preference to coming into work if they need to, holidays have been honoured and their boss has fallen over herself to be fair. She asked one thing of them. Don't take additional risks with your health of you are going to put yourself on the active work list!

Sometimes people make decisions and then have to bear repsonsibility for the outcome. You asked why peole meeting and then returning home increased anyones risk. I outlined an instance where it did!