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AIBU to say enough now?

273 replies

Enoughnowstop · 01/11/2020 11:16

I am not sure I can take any more.

I am a single parent. I am over 50. My children depend on me to bring in a wage and keep a roof over our heads. One of my children is a type 1 diabetic and as such, vulnerable to this virus. I am without support as my parents are dead and I am an only child. I am a teacher and a good one. I love my job. I want to be in the classroom and I want to be supportive of the students I work with.

I have read thread after thread on here in the last 24 hours with people looking to find loopholes or claim to just use 'common sense' so that, for the sake of their mental health, they can get through the next 4 weeks. People who have every intention of meeting up with others, even if it is 'just' outside. People who want their children in school because they can't possibly cope with their children at home in lockdown and what about their rights to an education, a future and their mental health.

I have spent an hour this morning quietly sobbing in my room whilst reading this shit. The utter lack of social responsibility and refusal to see a bigger picture. Not one fuck given about either the physical or mental health of every single person now working in key positions knowing that potentially, things are worse than they were 7 months or so ago. When you want to push your child in the pram and don't see why meeting up with someone else pushing their child in a pram, despite the rules being 2 people not 4 people but it's OK because your mental health can't take any more, maybe just give a thought to those of us who are cramming ourselves into small rooms without ventilation with 32 people who refuse to wear masks because they're exempt and who are transmitting the virus with few.....statistics suggest that there will be anywhere between 5 and 50 students in my school tomorrow who will have that virus. A russian roulette of whether or not I will end up in a room with one of them. I mean how could we be anything but mentally unhealthy knowing full well that tomorrow might be the day we contract this virus and our lives change forever? Who is protecting the mental and physical health of keyworkers? Does anyone actually care about the mental and physical health of keyworkers?

Maybe just start thinking about the mental health of every single person and every single person's right to life and our children's right to have a physically and mentally well parent, capable of meeting their needs.

And please, feel free to professionally insult me some more, becuase that's what always happens on these threads, tell me we don't need teachers like you and if you're that bothered, get another job there are thousands of unemployed just waiting in the wings to take over. Well, no, you can't do without me and my colleagues, our experience, our skills, our professionalism. Just as you can't do without the medical professionals who are facing dealing with this shit again because your right to mental health negates our right to both physical and mental health.

Your rights don't usurp mine. I don't have much faith in this government, but they are what they are. They are making the rules. Follow them. Remember you are not the only one struggling. Be grateful that you're not the one doing the keyworking and be supportive of those of us who are by remembering we also have a right to be physically and mentally healthy. There is balance required. For all of us. We all have a right to a future. Let's make sure those who's future is taken from them in this pandemic number as few, not as many, as possible.

As for me, I think my resignation is on the cards. I think anything at all is better than this.

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OverTheRubicon · 01/11/2020 22:59

I agree with you about so much, but why pick on the women pushing babies in prams? Personally I absolutely think that the 2 person limit should exclude babies under 6 months, we very nearly lost my sister to pnd, it's horribly common and this would be a hellish time to be a lonely or struggling new mother. Babies that age are not going to be crawling all over each other, and breastfeeding mothers in particular or those without partners or with partners working during the day are otherwise going to struggle to see anyone at all.

As for the rest, you have my full support and sympathy.

sadeyedladyofthelowlands63 · 01/11/2020 22:59

I hear you loud and clear. I am a teacher, living with someone who is extremely clinically vulnerable, andI'm basically playing Russian Roulette with our lives every day. I am very angry about it all.

Appuskidu · 01/11/2020 22:59

@StillCoughingandLaughing

And please, feel free to professionally insult me some more, becuase that's what always happens on these threads, tell me we don't need teachers like you and if you're that bothered, get another job there are thousands of unemployed just waiting in the wings to take over. Well, no, you can't do without me and my colleagues, our experience, our skills, our professionalism. Just as you can't do without the medical professionals who are facing dealing with this shit again because your right to mental health negates our right to both physical and mental health.

So before anyone responds, you’re deciding everyone is against you? Not the best way to get people on side.

I’m not entirely sure what your argument is. Are you saying that schools should close? Or that the rest of us should grind to a halt because schools are open?

I think the OP is saying people should follow the rules.
WhenSheWasBad · 01/11/2020 22:59

Flowers I feel very similar. My husband is vulnerable and I’m scared I’m going to catch Covid and give it him.

I’ll have a smile on my face when I go into school tomorrow. But I’m really scared I’m going to make my Dh very sick.

sadeyedladyofthelowlands63 · 01/11/2020 22:59
  • and I'm
friendlycat · 01/11/2020 23:02

I absolutely hear you. I’m appalled at the selfishness of people. Please believe there are many, many people who behave responsibly and have the utmost respect for you, your colleagues and all front facing people during this awful time.

The only thing giving me hope for the future is that virtually all the people I know are following the rules and not making their own wretched risk assessments.

Take care.

NellePorter · 01/11/2020 23:02

I care OP, and I am following the rules for you and all school staff Flowers.

SonjaMorgan · 01/11/2020 23:03

I understand where you are coming from OP. Unfortunately all of our needs and wants are at odds. Where one person needs to be able to work as they face losing their home another would rather a lockdown as they could potentially lose a loved one. It is shit.

JurassicParkaha · 01/11/2020 23:03

I'm sorry you are struggling. But so is everyone else and one person's hardship does not negate another. You can get angry about people not obeying rules but you have NO IDEA about their personal situation. Suicide rates and depression are up considerably. There are people completely isolated from any family or friends who genuinely worry they may die in their apartments and no one would know for weeks. There are people who are staring down poverty, domestic abuse, severe mental health problems - do you really think your problems eclipse everyone else's? Having perspective goes both ways..

My bf is an essential worker too, and putting his life at risk every day even without a pandemic. Fire fighters, police, army - what do you think their lives are like 24/7? Human beings are not perfect and it is madness to spend your time judging them, instead of doing your own bit for society and accepting that everyone here is just trying to survive.

MrsTravers · 01/11/2020 23:04

@OverTheRubicon According to the Times, preschool children will be excluded from the +1 rule, so two parents + children can meet up this time for precisely that reason.

Thanksfor you, OP. I hope this week is not too stressful. And let's hope people follow the rules, it's going to last a lot longer if they don't.

FractionalGains · 01/11/2020 23:10

They are making the rules. Follow them. Remember you are not the only one struggling. Be grateful that you're not the one doing the keyworking and be supportive of those of us who are by remembering we also have a right to be physically and mentally healthy

I think the way teachers are being treated is shocking, I agree with you there.

But I don’t like a lot of your post. Firstly, plenty of key workers are rule breakers, it’s not “them and us”. Secondly, I don’t think you should tell people who have lost/will lose their jobs in the lockdown and consequently probably their homes that they should be “grateful” they don’t have a key worker job. Being in employment and able to feed the family is a privilege right now.

You’re also quite dismissive of mental health. I have followed every rule and will continue to. I have a baby with awful colic and a toddler and post natal depression with a history of suicide attempts. I’ll be home alone with them all day every day as my husband is out at work long hours (front line NHS doctor if that means his work is justified to you) and I am genuinely worried I am going to spiral to the point where I can’t take any more, and then I won’t have a future and my children won’t have a mother. Yes if I die I’m not more important than hundreds of covid patients. But please don’t be so fucking dismissive of peoples mental health because it means more than just being a bit annoyed about lockdown. It kills. I desperately want to cope but some of us don’t know how and there’s fuck all support out there. I want to get through, I don’t want to leave my children! Don’t belittle mental health struggles.

When you want to push your child in the pram and don't see why meeting up with someone else pushing their child in a pram, despite the rules being 2 people not 4 people but it's OK because your mental health can't take any more

Thankfully the government is more humane and has clarified this is allowed.

I support the decision to lock down by the way. I just don’t think anyone should underestimate or belittle the impact it has on a lot of people and that impact doesn’t cease to be valid if those people aren’t key workers.

ShatnersWig · 01/11/2020 23:18

But I don’t like a lot of your post. Firstly, plenty of key workers are rule breakers, it’s not “them and us”

Sadly, this is all too true. I know several NHS workers, of all people, who were breaking rules during the first, proper lockdown. I'm afraid two are no longer friends after I queried it with them. They'd been quite boastful about doing "what they wanted"

Runnerduck34 · 01/11/2020 23:23

Your mental health is important and it sounds like you are at braking point, can you speak to your GP? They might sign you off sick and as a teacher you will probably get full pay off sick so no financial pressures. Be kind to yourself.
Others will make their own decisions, the advice and science has been contradictory and everyone has their own pressures and problems, whether they follow lockdown rules is out of your hands, you just need to do whats best for you and your family.

SheepandCow · 01/11/2020 23:29

I'm sorry OP. There are some very unpleasant people in this world unfortunately. I'm not talking about people genuinely struggling, but all the others - some whom are selfish to their rotten core (and thick too).

Some possible small comfort. Diabetes does seem to be very high risk - but it looks like that's wrt adult diabetics especially those over 40.

Obviously nothing is certain as it's still so new, and it's very important to take as many precautions as possible, but hopefully you'll feel slightly less worried.

SheepandCow · 01/11/2020 23:32

I agree with @Runnerduck34
Even just a couple of weeks off might help you. You shouldn't feel guilty about that.

MustardMitt · 01/11/2020 23:36

YANBU. I’m a key worker but not HCP or teacher. No vulnerabilities in the family. I WFH continuously, and yes, I’m bored, I’m lonely, I want to see my friends and family.

But I have three children in school. I cannot in good conscience risk everyone else by pleasing myself. And I am hugely fucked off with people that can.

FractionalGains · 01/11/2020 23:38

@JurassicParkaha

I'm sorry you are struggling. But so is everyone else and one person's hardship does not negate another. You can get angry about people not obeying rules but you have NO IDEA about their personal situation. Suicide rates and depression are up considerably. There are people completely isolated from any family or friends who genuinely worry they may die in their apartments and no one would know for weeks. There are people who are staring down poverty, domestic abuse, severe mental health problems - do you really think your problems eclipse everyone else's? Having perspective goes both ways..

My bf is an essential worker too, and putting his life at risk every day even without a pandemic. Fire fighters, police, army - what do you think their lives are like 24/7? Human beings are not perfect and it is madness to spend your time judging them, instead of doing your own bit for society and accepting that everyone here is just trying to survive.

Brilliant post.
CrotchBurn · 01/11/2020 23:45

You try living with daily physical panic attacks, family thousands of miles away and a crumbling business then get back to me.

Give your notice in if its that awful

SheepandCow · 01/11/2020 23:48

The newfound concern about mental health, poverty, and domestic abuse, is a potential silver lining of the pandemic.

Perhaps these long neglected sectors might (finally) get better resources - now that there's a public will for this.

Pre pandemic 2 women a week were killed by current or ex partners, mental health care was on it's knees, and there were so many suicides and other poverty related deaths due to benefit 'reforms' that the UN condemned the UK for the human rights failings.

NeverTwerkNaked · 01/11/2020 23:49

You might want to get some comfort from diabetes UK? I know several people with children with diabetes and they have all been really reassured about the risk.

SheepandCow · 01/11/2020 23:51

We owe it to our frontline workers to do our best to contain this virus.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/31/traumatised-intensive-care-nurses-sectioned-wake-first-wave/

From the article:
In May, NHS staff took more than 500,000 sick days because of "psychological trauma"

Nobody gets any kind of medical care - Covid, cancer, mental health, road accident, broken leg, etc, if the staff are off sick (Covid, Long Covid, or PTSD).

NeverTwerkNaked · 01/11/2020 23:51

Even adult diabetes if well controlled is not a substantially higher risk and the knowledge of how to manage it with Covid and grown massively (have literally just spent this evening discussing it with a family member who is a diabetes specialist)

FancySomeChips · 01/11/2020 23:53

I’m with you OP.
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Chloemol · 01/11/2020 23:53

I am with you Op

NeverTwerkNaked · 01/11/2020 23:53

It you are genuinely at breaking point I suggest speaking to a doctor. But the fact you are breaking doesn't mean others aren't too, for all sorts of reasons.