WHERE are people catching Covid?

[Summerfreeze]

I don't mean where in the country, I mean what settings? I know they lie a lot about it not spreading in schools but is there any data about where they are at least purporting that it's spreading?

Good point about it being hard to pinpoint for many people, if they are out and about. Plus of course we know kids are often asymptomatic.

@FredtheFerret Sorry to hear that. How are you feeling?

@Appuskidu

I think this is the most recent data from the weekly surveillance reports.

It’s quite interesting that the primary and secondary schools have been put in as two separate entries.

It's a shame there's not a split for supermarkets between visiting and working. Surely there's a big difference between working an 8 hour shift there v a 10/15 minute trip.

All the staff at my workplace who caught it went out together to restaurants and all 3 got it. They told the landlord that they were flatmates.

@Comefromaway

How do they know though.

Dh is a teacher. He travels every day on the train to work to teach classes of students in unventilated rooms. Last weekend we went to a restaurant, the theatre & shopping. If he caught it who knows where he could have picked it up.

That's the entire point of setting up an effective track and trace system: so that cases and infections and where infection is taking place as recorded and cases can therefore be identified and isolated.

Oooops.

@Summerfreeze. Fairly rough, to be honest. I feel like I've got flu and everything aches. I don't feel well enough to want to go out anywhere. And I'm anxious about DH, but he appears to have a mild case of it. Keeping my fingers crossed because he was on the shielding list originally, but although his test came back positive he says he doesn't feel too bad.

My dd school was the first to close after reopened only 2 days back because all the teachers had it apart from 1 year group not one child that I no of had it 2 days after opening I don't believe they caught it from any child. 1 probably had it b4 starting bk up an passed it around the teachers at beginning of week staff training 2inset days b4 kids went bk so pretty of time for it to have passed from teacher to teacher.

Definitely schools! It's spread like wildfire in the schools near me.

Two staff members and the common link was a local primary school !!

One of the SAGE professors said earlier in the Channel 4 news that women of age 18-40 had increased in hospitals ..... so basically parents then of kids getting it from schools

Let's hope we don't fuck up kids more by ensuring their parent ends up on ITU or dead - they'll blame Themselves as it wouldn't have come from them ... worrying - #online teaching!

OP, we have lots of hints but no reliable answer to your question, regardless of the nice shiny piechart.

Because t&t didn't really happen. That was supposed to give this sort of data. It would have allowed local outbreaks to be nipped in the bud before they spread and merged into something requiring a national lockdown.

A friend got it from her gym. They had to close after about 20 cases were confirmed, even though they have been stringent with distancing, disinfecting etc.

@FredtheFerret I'm sorry you're feeling rough and really hope your DH's case stays mild.

An effective track and trace system hmmm.

So that explains why dd was contacted 7 days after her contact with a teacher who tested positive, why ds’s singing teacher was contacted 6 days after she taught a college student who tested positive (who was in college even though his mum went for a test) & ds’s piano teacher was contacted 8 days after contact with a child in his school.

Surely if it's spreading in schools and unis, at some point there's likely to be a good level of immunity in these settings? Even if just for this winter? Maybe that's what they're thinking with keeping them open (teachers obviously are collateral damage to that plan).

Schools and universities. Even Chris Witty's graphs say so and I'm surprised more people haven't noticed.
Pubs, hairdressers etc.. opened early July. His graph showed cases still falling until September - when education settings re-opened. But why follow the data in front of him when they can just make up whatever they want? It's ridiculous.

Large antibody study from German found levels of infection in children was six fold higher than captured by testing. Almost half the kids asymptomatic. Whatever cases we’re picking up in kids (and we’re only testing symptomatic rather than exposed cases) it is just the tip of the iceberg of what’s going on in British classrooms - and yet it is still ahead of most other settings.
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There’s been an outbreak at our local school. A number of staff ended up with it, I assume from kids but who knows.

This was then passed on to more kids, and their families including grandparents. I’ve heard of at least one person very seriously I’ll from that outbreak but I don’t know a lot of people involved in the school.

Simplistic but basically where people come into prolonged contact. Easy really.

I know 3 people who have tested positive in October. One caught it at work (nursery), one caught it on a night out and the other caught it from one of their parents (not part of their household or bubble)

@Viciouslybashed

Yeah where are pubs are they included in hospitality?

For some people it comes under work, for some people it’s other and for those that serve food it’s the 3%

@Porcupineinwaiting

How come so many people are still being infected in care homes? Are staff bringing it in? Most care homes I know have been locked down for months.

Of course it is the care workers. Also the few visitors allowed will sometimes bring it in . They are still sending some patients back to care homes with known Covid infections with the care home being expected to isolate , though I suppose it Is better then sending them back without a test so that their homes don't know who to isolate, which was happening in the Spring.

I caught it from one of my daughter's school friends, just before the March lockdown.

@Comefromaway

An effective track and trace system hmmm.

So that explains why dd was contacted 7 days after her contact with a teacher who tested positive, why ds’s singing teacher was contacted 6 days after she taught a college student who tested positive (who was in college even though his mum went for a test) & ds’s piano teacher was contacted 8 days after contact with a child in his school.

On this note, just want to add that my mum was sent a test by the Zoe app as she had reported what might be symptoms. The test was posted back last Monday and still no result. That turnaround time is just not acceptable- if that had been a working person, itv would have been the whole week off work, maybe unnecessarily.

We have had two separate positive cases in my son's primary school, about a month or so apart. Both were children (not teachers) who had caught it from their parents. Neither case spread amongst other children. Colds and sickness bugs spread like wildfire though!