Meeting one person new rule does that include kids?

[Lifestooshort1542]

So with the new lockdown rules from Thursday it says you can meet one other person who is from another household outdoors, does that mean I can meet with my DS another person with her DS? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[Indoctro]

It's basically to go for a run / cycle together . That's about the only reason really I took it as. So no children allowed

[Versace104]

Anyone who would have a go at somebody for meeting one other person and bringing along their baby in a pram/sling is just ridiculous tbh.

[tootyfruitypickle]

OP if your ds is young, go to the playground, he sees his friend there, you chat to the mum, socially distanced.

If DS is older, then you walk in pairs. I'm meeting my ds at a location, then our dds will go off walking together, we will walk together. We may walk in the same direction or most likely we won't! But I am meeting ds and dd is meeting dn. It makes absolutely no difference to virus transmission as I am only mixing with one other and will remain sd.

I've broken no rules at all throughout, and in fact stopped working in london end of feb as I saw what was coming, and haven't been in anyone's homes apart from my bubble. I've not even eaten out. So I'm pretty sure I'm not feeding into the global pandemic, I'm being so careful. As long as I only meet one person and stay apart this is fine- but dd can't get to see anyone without me driving her so we will always have to meet in carparks and separate out like this.

[PurpleDaisies]

It's basically to go for a run / cycle together. That's about the only reason really I took it as

Have you actually read what the guidelines say? They’ve been posted multiple times and they absolutely do not say you can only meet for exercise.

[IceCreamAndCandyfloss]

Dejavu of the rule of six all over again. It’s one person, children are people so count.

[movingonup20]

It's one other person so no not family groups. It's aimed at people who live alone to legally allow them to meet a friend to walk around the park chatting or perhaps sit on a bench with flask of coffee. Playgrounds are remaining open so parents (properly distanced) can chat whilst their kids play, the police wont be rushing to parks to ensure you stand in silence!

[Deadgoldfish]

Why do people keep insisting you have to be walking around with someone to meet them?

You could meet another person to sunbathe if you wanted - a beach is a public place. Although sunbathing is probably out at the moment.

It isn’t just exercise, but we are obviously heading back to the old days of posters making up rules and then getting angry when others break the imaginary rules.

[tootyfruitypickle]

It's aimed at people living alone, which does beg the question about children when the parent is a single parent?

[PurpleDaisies]

Where does it say in the guidelines it’s for people living alone?

[MrsFezziwig]

@LolalovesLondon
What makes you think I NEED to see them during the working day?

Obviously (well maybe not) I meant “need” as in you have to be together in the same place to do your job. When you said they were colleagues that kind of implied that you had to interact to do your job.

Following your clarification, that’s clearly not the case.

[Deadgoldfish]

@tootyfruitypickle - it isn’t bubbles. You are allowed to meet up with one other person, in public spaces, and there doesn’t have to be a reason for it. It doesn’t need to be the same person you either, in the same way the rule of 6 did not confine you to the same group of 6.

[BabyLlamaZen]

I know it's awful op. The shitty remarks from people don't help, especially if you've just had a baby. Your head is a mess and baby is attached to you 24/7 so quite isolating and there is no way they can mix without you (unless you hand them over which obviously you won't) so it makes sense to query it.

[MrsFezziwig]

Where does it say in the guidelines it’s for people living alone?

You’re doing a great job clarifying things PurpleDaisies but I bet you must be banging your head against a wall by now! People would obviously rather formulate their own theories rather than just read the guidelines.

If they had called this the “Rule of Two” (so a reduced version of the Rule of Six) would this make it easier to understand? It’s nothing to do with support bubbles or people living alone.

[Onjnmoeiejducwoapy]

Hi OP, you may be interested that some MPs are arguing for this now: that babies and children under 1 should be excluded from this. Alicia Kearns MP has been tweeting about it, and they are in contact with No.10 about this.

[Sonnenscheins]

So with the new lockdown rules from Thursday it says you can meet one other person who is from another household outdoors, does that mean I can meet with my DS another person with her DS? 🤦🏻‍♀️

You can either go out with members of your household

OR

You (alone) can meet one friend from another household outside.

But not both at the same time. Do no you cannot meet your friend and her son outside.

[IncidentsandAccidents]

Are there really people out there would cast judgement on two mums going for a socially distanced walk with babies in a sling or pram? Really?! This feels like the glory days of March and April when people were shamed for taking their dog for a walk in the middle of nowhere or eating a bag of crisps on a park bench.

[crazyfrogs]

But that is permitted under the carer exclusion. So not sure why the drama is needed.

The carer exclusion is for people who need care i.e. an elderly parent who you need to go to to provide care. Not for a person you live with who can be provided with the care (in this case feeding) they need at home. OP doesn't need to go out in order to breastfeed her child, she can do that at home.

People looking for loopholes are the reason we're in this mess.

[crazyfrogs]

@PurpleDaisies

Where does it say in the guidelines it’s for people living alone?

There's a whole bit on it which you would have seen if you'd bothered to read them.

[Ginogineli]

You can meet one person for exercise or to visit outdoor public spaces so doesn’t have to be as part of exercise

“You can exercise or visit outdoor public places...”

[Ginogineli]

Parks and playgrounds are inc so kids can go out 1-1 to the park it clearly states that

[Ginogineli]

Here

[Deadgoldfish]

@Ginogineli - kids will need a parent to supervise them, and there will be more than one child in the playground at a time. So they can play, at a social distance, with other children - in the same way they do school.

If I went to the park and a friend was there with her children, I would not be obligated to leave the park and I would be allowed to talk to said friend at a social distance.

So arranging to see a friend there is no different. The same friend I could meet for a coffee anywhere at any time, at a social distance.

[Bambooble]

@crazyfrogs I believe that PP was referring to me when they posted that, and not OP.

[PurpleDaisies]

There's a whole bit on it which you would have seen if you'd bothered to read them.

This is nonsense. Meeting one person outdoors in public spaces is for everyone.