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To think schools should be shut during lockdown.

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Ilovegreentomatoes · 31/10/2020 19:53

So shutting down everything but keeping schools open.AIBU to think that a lockdown should involve schools closing as well.Have been about six cases in my dds secondary zero social distancing and is just defeating the object of a lockdown as it has now been proven that schools,colleges etc can easily spread the virus.

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Bollss · 01/11/2020 09:23

@LolalovesLondon

Immune? Nope not immune just not terrified. I might die. I mean it's fairly unlikely but I might.

I’m neither immune or terrified.
I still want PPE and don’t think I should just ‘get on with it’ if my employer doesn’t provide it.

Ok then strike for it. I am sure that will work

Why can't you just wear your own ppe?

LolalovesLondon · 01/11/2020 09:24

‘has’

user00119922 · 01/11/2020 09:24

@Waxonwaxoff0
Still going out to work, so your children would still be able to attend school with the key worker children.

Bollss · 01/11/2020 09:24

@LolalovesLondon

Trust Being deliberately goady is against the rules you know.

It had been said many times on many threads.

Yes by many goady arseholes. Doesn't make it ok!
mumsneedwine · 01/11/2020 09:24

@pigcon1 that was very wrong. We ran key worker classes every day throughout. We also allowed vulnerable children to come in. Your school should be ashamed as all key worker children were entitled to be looked after. If it happens again you must complain.

LolalovesLondon · 01/11/2020 09:25

Ok then strike for it. I am sure that will work

Should not have to.

Why can't you just wear your own ppe?

Have been told not to.

Nellodee · 01/11/2020 09:25

Individually, each one of us is far more likely to survive.

Collectively, some of us will certainly die.

Bollss · 01/11/2020 09:26

@LolalovesLondon

Ok then strike for it. I am sure that will work

Should not have to.

Why can't you just wear your own ppe?

Have been told not to.

I'm not saying you should have to but some posters are stating that they want that.

And what happens if you just wear it anyway? Have they told you why you cannot wear it? Have you questioned it? Spoken to other staff about it?

What would you actually like to do about it?

Flaxmeadow · 01/11/2020 09:26

sorry, did I miss you naming the shop you work in ? I would genuinely like to complain to their head office if you are having to deal with such crowding.

I'm not saying you cant complain or ask for better safety measures. I assume a teacher would ask their head or the local authority?

I don't go shopping as minimise my risk as much as I can outside school, but from what I've heard everywhere is really empty and wearing masks with screens up at tills, so this shop needs shaming.

No it isn't empty at all. Infact for the last few months it's been back to normal I'm in a tier 3 area. People have been shopping as if it's just normal

But my point is. Even when we didn't have masks and PPE, we would not have gone on strike

There is a comment on this thread, I think by a teacher, more or less saying "look after your own kids". A reply to a teacher saying that from a retail worker, which includes workers packing for home deliveries, might be "well grow your own fucking food then". I wouldn't say that to anyone BTW but...

LolalovesLondon · 01/11/2020 09:26

Yes by many goady arseholes. Doesn't make it ok!

Parents saying their children are bored and are getting in the way are not ‘goading’.
They are saying what they think.

I am taking the piss I admit.

Bollss · 01/11/2020 09:27

@LolalovesLondon

Yes by many goady arseholes. Doesn't make it ok!

Parents saying their children are bored and are getting in the way are not ‘goading’.
They are saying what they think.

I am taking the piss I admit.

I didn't say they were goading, I said you were.
mumsneedwine · 01/11/2020 09:28

@TrustTheGeneGenie you miss the point. You might be that 1%. Or your partner, mum, dad, brother, sister. Now I quite like my family and if I can protect them I will. 1% of 65 million is 650,000 dead people, who otherwise might have lived happy lives.
I hope you are not in the 1%. But you can't tell whether you will be or not. So why not try and protect yourself, just in case ?

MumsGoneToIceland · 01/11/2020 09:28

All the people moaning about who will look after their kids if schools shut, well obviously schools will be open for key worker children just like last time.
If you're not a key worker you're either furloughed or working from home

So opening for key workers mean teachers are still exposed. AND children of key workers get a decent education and my child doesn’t meaning they are not getting the same life opportunities. We put up with this disparity for 5 months and it was unfair, it’s simply not on to do this again to our children. It needs to be equal opportunities for all of them

Can I also point out that if you are Working From Home, the clue is in the first word. You cannot Work and Teach at the same time!

Bollss · 01/11/2020 09:28

[quote mumsneedwine]@TrustTheGeneGenie you miss the point. You might be that 1%. Or your partner, mum, dad, brother, sister. Now I quite like my family and if I can protect them I will. 1% of 65 million is 650,000 dead people, who otherwise might have lived happy lives.
I hope you are not in the 1%. But you can't tell whether you will be or not. So why not try and protect yourself, just in case ?[/quote]
Haha. What makes you think I am not "protecting myself" ?

LolalovesLondon · 01/11/2020 09:28

Flax
I'm not saying you cant complain or ask for better safety measures. I assume a teacher would ask their head or the local authority?

Local Authority?! You do know that academies don’t have anything to do with ‘local authorities’ don’t you?!

Nellodee · 01/11/2020 09:29

Flaxmeadow, just face it. You totally made it up that there is any retail business anywhere that looks like that picture of a school corridor.

LolalovesLondon · 01/11/2020 09:30

Trust
I didn't say they were goading, I said you were

Just repeating what many parents have said on MN threads 🤷‍♂️

pigcon1 · 01/11/2020 09:30

@mumsneedwine
It’s great that your school did that. I did complain. And was told if you can work from home - key worker or not - the kids stay with you.

MigGril · 01/11/2020 09:30

Nellodee this is what I don't think a lot of people outside education are understanding. Teachers are actually being told by the government NOT to wear PPE. Even those who where shielding back in March are now back in the classroom. These teachers are in rooms of often over 30 children, teaching across year groups. But no some how no PPE is needed in a classroom.

Bollss · 01/11/2020 09:32

@LolalovesLondon

Trust I didn't say they were goading, I said you were

Just repeating what many parents have said on MN threads 🤷‍♂️

Let's face it, you weren't. I don't think anyone said their kids are in the way. Struggling working from home with kids about maybe, struggling to entertain kids when they were locked up definitely. But in the way? Hahahaha no.
LolalovesLondon · 01/11/2020 09:32

Haha.What makes you think I am not "protecting myself"?

and other people are trying to do the same.

mumsneedwine · 01/11/2020 09:32

@Flaxmeadow wow, I'm surprised shopping is back to normal anywhere. Can you name your town as friend in Liverpool tells me it's deserted so can't be there. And DD in Notts says it's a ghost town. It sounds like you work in a supermarket- are they not limiting numbers ? I'd complain if I shopped there (except I wouldn't, I'd take my money elsewhere).
Q's outside Costco were apparently v long yesterday. Why Qs ? Because they were limiting number of people in, not letting shop get crowded.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 01/11/2020 09:32

@user00119922 no he wouldn't. The key worker list is specific and I'm not entitled to a place.

pigcon1 · 01/11/2020 09:32

@mumsneedwine

Also great your school ran classes - this is not what I understand happened in most schools.

Bollss · 01/11/2020 09:33

@LolalovesLondon

Haha.What makes you think I am not "protecting myself"?

and other people are trying to do the same.

Yes by refusing to do their jobs which I am categorically not doing.