Bristol

[laughoutquiet]

Following from another thread really...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-areas-ranked-worst-coronavirus-4637950.amp

Why, if Bristol has such high rates, is it still in tier one? Maybe because surrounding areas are lower.... but wouldn't that be a reason to increase the tier to stop other areas increasing?

I'm so confused as to reasoning why

Better hospital capacity?

ScrapThatThen
My school had 4 positive cases very early on after opening in September. Settled over the next few weeks, 2 more before half term. In Tier 1 area, numbers generally OK

@hettie

Very likely Bristol will be heading for tier 3 by xmas if it spreads out from students. Not going to do much for town/gown relationships is it. The universities will have to do a lot of work to get residents to be supportive given rates were low before students returned....

I'm a student there. Two of the three staff members teaching me face to face don't comply with the university rules; as such I presume others are not either. A vanishingly small number of students follow (most of) them. Security laughed when I asked if the one way system was being upheld. The only thing they are actually doing is masks. There have been almost constant emails about cases in halls since well before the start of term.

I really like the uni, but I don't trust a word they say about their covid policies. Anything they say to reassure the local community is disingenuous bullshit and they (uni) know it. It's arse covering and no more, not an actual means of keeping cases down.

@herja that's very interesting about the university. I had a suspicion that it was being disingenuous in its handling of th ge pandemic. The relationship between the university and the city was already bad but this is going to cause a permanent schism.

It does seem some universities have got this more under control than others. Having the uni in the town centre area is probably not great as the students will be in the centre pubs etc.

My DD has yet to set foot on campus. Not sure how, as a student, she is contributing to any of this.

@mumsneedwine obviously it isn't all students. But let's be honest, students are partying, fact. Also you can't really take away from the fact that there was 1800 (i believe?!) Confirmed student cases at the 2 uni's in Bristol last week.
It is really annoying, as someone who lives there, that students were allowed back. I don't blame them, of course. But it should never have been allowed. This was inevitable.

The uni couldn't care less about the city or its residents. They won't be trying to make amends or apologise for increasing COVID cases. Profit over everything

I work in Bristol but live 45 minutes away. It makes me nervous now that the tier maybe changing and I am still expected to go in and out to work. I don't want to bring it home!

I can't believe Bristol has just created its own Tier. A recipe for disaster and they should be moving into Tier 2. I'm not sure what impact 8 covid marshalls are going to have on a city the size of Bristol.

@AliciaWhiskers

I can't believe Bristol has just created its own Tier. A recipe for disaster and they should be moving into Tier 2. I'm not sure what impact 8 covid marshalls are going to have on a city the size of Bristol.

that the number will continue raising.. that' the only impact it'll have. also do they've powers to fine people or just to say ey you two social distance or have your mask up? I'd not like to be a marshall right now

I'm not sure what impact 8 covid marshalls are going to have on a city the size of Bristol.

Hahaha it’s a token joke really.

I’m all for banning indoor mixing, hopefully get it back under control for Christmas!

I laughed at the 8 marshalls too. Ha.

So, who bets this +1 shenanigans won't work and we'll be in tier 2 in a week?
Or even jump straight to tier 3?

@Orangesarenottheonlyfruit

Yes I give it a week.
I am rather confused though why we aren’t In tier 2.

Why haven’t any bothers cities been put in tier 1
Plus first?

They are making it up as the go along!

[quote OverTheRainbow88]@Orangesarenottheonlyfruit

Yes I give it a week.
I am rather confused though why we aren’t In tier 2.

Why haven’t any bothers cities been put in tier 1
Plus first?

They are making it up as the go along![/quote]
I agree, we'll be moving tiers soon!

It's not a central government imitative, it's literally something councils/mayors in the south west have created. That's why you haven't seen it anywhere else.

Initiative even!

Most of the uni mixing seems to involve a minority, drunk on alcohol ... so why don't the government just put an alcohol ban on all university premises? They could even simply ban uni students drinking (they can confine the entire population to our homes and age restrict drinking so in that sense a liquor ban on one section of the population isn't far fetched at all).

Doesn't it make much more health, social, legal, political and economic sense than locking down the entire country just so that a minority of idiots in halls and flats can continue to illegally partay?

Anyone who objects has the choice to leave (most won't).

@PicsInRed

Anecdotally, Bristol had "something" nasty - similar to covid - sweep through late last year. Who knows.

We live in a small town close to Bristol; nearly a whole year group of a local secondary school were off sick with an awful respiratory virus around January.

@PicsInRed

Most of the uni mixing seems to involve a minority, drunk on alcohol ... so why don't the government just put an alcohol ban on all university premises? They could even simply ban uni students drinking (they can confine the entire population to our homes and age restrict drinking so in that sense a liquor ban on one section of the population isn't far fetched at all).

Doesn't it make much more health, social, legal, political and economic sense than locking down the entire country just so that a minority of idiots in halls and flats can continue to illegally partay?

Anyone who objects has the choice to leave (most won't).

I really hope you're being sarcastic, otherwise that is a stupid suggestion. You can't just ban alcohol use for a whole group of people, that's hardly fair and is very extreme. Uni groups will meet up weather there is alcohol or not. They would just find some other way to get it anyway. How the hell would they police that anyway. That really is unnecessary taking this away.

I think Imposing the 10pm curfew meant that those students who would go out and get drunk are doing it in their uni halls/houses instead. I don't think taking away alcohol would work. Instead, they should all be sent home and have two weeks isolation at Home to avoid speeding it, problem solved. This won't happen though as universities are too powerful and want the money.

On another note- what are your thoughts about the university protests ?

It feels a wee bit like here we have not had the 'first wave' as such so we are a bit complacent? Not sure.

In Bath the uni is on campus, they have stuck marquees and bars up there and the bus service seems to have been reduced into town. However many students live in town. On the map student areas in Bathwick and Oldfield park are coming up dark compared to the rest. But rates are pretty high all over now.

My brother lives in Bristol and was quite ill Dec / Jan
The doctor kept asking if he smoked ( my brother has never smoked ) and the said it seemed like it was some sort of chest Virus / infection
I remember my brother clearly saying to me that if an elderly person got it what he had it would probably kill them
His went on from Dec to early February

studychick81

It is extreme, that's the point - it's less extreme than locking down entire parts of the UK or the entire UK as a whole, yet we've done that and are doing that again now. Students not drinking is not more extreme than using the police and army to compel free citizens to remain in their homes. If it's a choice of one or the other, which is less extreme? Pointedly, this would also mean uni students were free to roam again. If we object to a liquor ban, surely we object to mass lockdown?

I think the uni protests are right, and that it's an absoute disgrace that uni students were tricked into returning to uni only to be locked in their halls for full fees to subsidise landlords. I think uni students are being unjustly demonized and effectively imprisoned for cash - much of which comes from loans, so the uni students are going deeper into debt, to reduce wealthy landlords' debts. Monstrous.

I think the reason that there hasn't been a liquor ban is because the government knows that the real issue is that we will never get numbers down in the UK with free open borders - everytime we get the numbers down, travellers will simply bring it back in again en masse. What's the point?

Politicians do like to travel. ✈

Re: borders and travel, wealthy and big business to be exempt from quarantine. From the Sunday Times if you have a subscription (other links below further report the story).

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/seven-day-covid-quarantine-and-none-for-jet-set-hcwzs9prr

The denials are as good as an admission, yeah it's not policy yet, but they've basically used the media to run it up the flag pole and count the salutes. Bastards.

www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1352731/quarantine-update-latest-news-travel-ban-corridors-business-travellers

www.cityam.com/high-flying-city-figures-to-be-exempt-from-quarantine-rules/amp/?utm_content=buffer1072c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer&fbclid=IwAR2E2xaiqYnX-AghFNuK2Ai3mkLr64F1-PXnx_FskWhTGqoRJYgcm_vwuFw

www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2020/10/27/minister-dismisses-reports-of-14-day-quarantine-exemption-for-business-trips/