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Pure data thread #1: Daily numbers, graphs, focused analyses

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BigChocFrenzy · 21/10/2020 17:20

This is pure data, NOT for the "worried about Corona"

We welcome calm factual, data-driven contributions
Please try to keep discussion focused on these and avoid emotional venting or politics
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Resource links

UK:
Uk dashboard R, deaths, cases, hospitals, tests - by postcode, 4 nations, English regions, LAs
Interactive 7-day rolling cases map click on map or by postcode
UK govt pressers Slides & data
SAGE Table Interventions with impacts and R
Imperial UK weekly tables & extrapolations LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots
School statistics Attendance - Tuesdays
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports
UK testing and NHS England track & trace - Thursdays
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports
ONS England, Wales & NI Infection surveillance report - Fridays
ONS Datasets for surveillance reports
Our World in Data UK test positivity
R estimates & daily growth UK & English regions - Fridays
Modelling real number of UK infections February in first wave

England:
NHS England Hospital activity
NHS England Daily deaths
PHE COVID Clinical Risk Factors Non-respiratory by region, area, district etc
Cases Tracker England Local Government
PHE surveillance reports Covid, flu, respiratory diseases - Thursdays
CovidMessenger live update by council district in England

Scotland, Wales, NI:
Scot gov Daily data
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t
PH Wales LAs, tests, ONS deaths
NI Dashboard

COVID-19 Risk Factors
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment
PHE Clinical RFs - summary & social vulnerability indicators
PHE Clinical RFs - respiratory disease
PHE Clinical RFs - non-respiratory - CVD,T1, T2, obesity, flu jab coverage
PHE Non-Clinical RFs - deprivation, demography, economic inactivity, ethnicity
PHE Non-Clinical RFs - Vulnerable Groups (1): care / nursing home, MH, visual disabilities
PHE Non-Clinical RFs - homeless, children in care, ESL

Miscell:
Zoe Uk data
ECDC rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK
Worldometer UK page
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop
Local Mobility Reports for countries
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery
NHS Triage Dashboard Pathways - triages of symptoms
NHS Triage Dashboard Progression - # people pillar 1&2, # triages

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TheSunIsStillShining · 26/10/2020 14:18

@TheMShip
Are you hiring?

NightmareLoon · 26/10/2020 14:29

[quote MRex]@Abraid2 - there seems to be mumps and meningitis at one or another uni every year. Does anyone know why there isn't a programme to vaccinate the school leavers in their last year? As post-16 adults they could choose to catch up anything their parents missed in childhood too.[/quote]
They give Meningitis ACWY (ACWY are the problematic strains in teenagers/young adults) in Y9 or Y10. We do it in school, but you can get it from your GP too.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/men-acwy-vaccine/

TheMShip · 26/10/2020 14:37

@TheSunIsStillShining Have DM'd you.

Augustbreeze · 26/10/2020 15:04

Have people seen the BBC report that Boots is going to start offering rapid Covid tests, 12 min results, for asymptomatic people with £120 to spare (!):

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54684985

MRex · 26/10/2020 15:15

Thanks @NightmareLoon, having a look it seems 2015 was the year the MenACWY programme started. So from Y9 that means last year was the first freshers who have been vaccinated against MenW too (if I got my years correct?) vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/meningococcal-disease. Really high take-up at over 88% too.

PatriciaHolm · 26/10/2020 15:35

[quote Augustbreeze]Have people seen the BBC report that Boots is going to start offering rapid Covid tests, 12 min results, for asymptomatic people with £120 to spare (!):

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54684985[/quote]
That'll be (slightly hypochondriac...) DP....!

And 48 hour ones as well, which can be used as "proof" for flying etc (which the 12 min ones can't).

At the risk of re-igniting the schools debate, a new position paper from the Hebrew Uni of Israel says that the under 10s were not responsible for driving a second wave in the country; older children (at boarding schools), holidays, and 20s somethings partying at weddings were to blame.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/school-system-not-responsible-for-coronavirus-second-wave-644058

ancientgran · 26/10/2020 15:41

@TheMShip I'm ashamed to say I was so overwhelmed to find out I didn't carry the faulty gene that caused the early death of several of my fathers siblings, his mother and one of her siblings, that I don't remember much of what he said. I have got the letter somewhere. My main thing was that my four kids and six grandchildren were safe.

I wish I'd taken more notice, he was the nicest HCP I've ever seen and giving me good news was just overwhelming.

ancientgran · 26/10/2020 15:43

It is great that kids are getting the meningitis vaccination, one of mine got it in the first term at uni. It was the longest 200 mile drive of my life.

TheMShip · 26/10/2020 15:59

@ancientgran If it was Huntington's or another single gene disorder, you likely would have had Sanger sequencing of just the gene in question, rather than whole genome sequencing. I'm pleased to hear you were lucky enough to break the chain of inheritance. There's no shame in that Flowers.

Nellodee · 26/10/2020 16:15

Here's a different article on that Israeli position paper. I don't think they are really saying that schools aren't responsible, only that younger children are less infectious.

www.timesofisrael.com/rush-young-kids-back-to-school-theyre-most-virus-proof-citizens-experts/

"Children under 10 should head back to class the moment lockdown ends, says panel, but middle schools and high schools should stay shut ‘for a very long time’"

"Children over 10 and teens are infected similarly to adults, although their morbidity is milder."

Nellodee · 26/10/2020 16:16

Either the "position piece" is very thin on actual research, or its been reported very poorly. I couldn't find any links to the original piece in either of the stories about it.

PatriciaHolm · 26/10/2020 16:19

@Nellodee

Here's a different article on that Israeli position paper. I don't think they are really saying that schools aren't responsible, only that younger children are less infectious.

www.timesofisrael.com/rush-young-kids-back-to-school-theyre-most-virus-proof-citizens-experts/

"Children under 10 should head back to class the moment lockdown ends, says panel, but middle schools and high schools should stay shut ‘for a very long time’"

"Children over 10 and teens are infected similarly to adults, although their morbidity is milder."

Yes - without being able to read the paper itself, which is annoying, they seem to be saying under 10s really aren't a problem but over 10s (and hence middle/senior schools) are. So the headline should really read "primary schools aren't responsible" …

But without being able to actually see the data, it's difficult to really see what they are basing that on.

TheSunIsStillShining · 26/10/2020 16:20

It looks like they are again searching the sofa for the lost change....

NoGoodPunsLeft · 26/10/2020 16:30

Re: schools, isn't this what @Nellodee (I think it was) went through with her statistical calculator that the older the child the more connections/contacts they have (ie moving round schools for GCSE options etc) rather than primary children being less infectious?

lurker101 · 26/10/2020 16:34

@Nellodee and @PatriciaHolm the recent stats from Northern Ireland have really good data on school “outbreaks” and supports much lower spread amongst primary school age children. I posted the link earlier in the thread but think it may have got lost (or maybe only I thought it was interesting 😂) www.publichealth.hscni.net/sites/default/files/2020-10/Monthly%20Epidemiological%20Bulletin_week%2042_0.pdf

PatriciaHolm · 26/10/2020 17:00

[quote lurker101]**@Nellodee* and @PatriciaHolm* the recent stats from Northern Ireland have really good data on school “outbreaks” and supports much lower spread amongst primary school age children. I posted the link earlier in the thread but think it may have got lost (or maybe only I thought it was interesting 😂) www.publichealth.hscni.net/sites/default/files/2020-10/Monthly%20Epidemiological%20Bulletin_week%2042_0.pdf[/quote]
Nooo it's super interesting! I missed that link.

The report goes into quite some depth re outbreaks doesn't it. And shows how they differ between school types - for example 61% of primary clusters being a single case vs 29% of post primary. With 40% of primary schools experiencing at least one case but 87% of post primaries.

Also - 42% of primary related cases being staff, but 21% of post primary.

sooooo….post primary pupils had more infections, but primarily kept infections between themselves. It would be really interesting to see a Venn diagram for primary on "clusters of one case" and "staff", to see if a large proportion of primary cases didn't involve children at all (staff being infected elsewhere).

lunar1 · 26/10/2020 17:18

Does this delay mean someone messed up the spreadsheet again?

PatriciaHolm · 26/10/2020 17:19

Or the official excel spreadsheet updater has a long weekend off and forgot to tell anyone...

Witchend · 26/10/2020 17:22

On a purely pedantic note does it wind anyone else up that on the main page they have 04:11pm. I was always told that if you used the 0 it was to show you were using 24 hour clock.

PatriciaHolm · 26/10/2020 17:26

Yes! It's only on the landing page as well, which is most odd.

ancientgran · 26/10/2020 17:31

TheMShip, it wasn't Huntingtons, I'm not sure what the test was. I do know that as they still had tissue samples from my grandmother and 3 of her children (who all died early) they were able to use those tissue samples to help identify the gene sequence that was faulty. There are better claims to fame. Another aunt had the same condition but it didn't kill her and 2 of my cousins have it.

Piggywaspushed · 26/10/2020 17:34

I think the likely explanation there is that secondary teachers are keeping away from the students. Primary staff not only can't very effectively but have,more or less, been told not to. My head was annoyed at having to send two staff home last week because they confessed to being close to a conformed case. it's Not The Done Thing.

cathyandclare · 26/10/2020 17:40

20890
101 deaths

ancientgran · 26/10/2020 18:05

Pressure on the NHS is still growing.

Nellodee · 26/10/2020 18:08

@lurker101 I missed your data the first time around. That's very interesting data from Northern Ireland. I wish we had English data broken down like that.

It makes sense that although Primary school children may be less at risk, they are more likely to pass their infections on to staff. Primary teachers are a lot more hands on and have to deal with more snot and what have you.