Are more people following the rules now?

[Watermelon999]

Just that really......

Anyone still not following the rules?

What are your reasons/ rationale.

yes i am im in tier 2 ,and will continue to do so ,as over the last 3 weeks i have gone from not knowing anyone whos had it to knowing at least 5 close friends /family who have developed it

Childcare bubbles, we have many. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to work.

T&T was enforced by McDonald's on entry. I'd love to know the legality there.

I'm following them.less not more.

I'm in tier 2 but have been in local lockdown ie not allowed in another house since August. I have followed the rules since the start and not seen family as they live 2 hrs away so it's a long way to go to stand outside. Plus not allowed to mix households in a pub or restaurant so that's out too.
I'm heartily sick of it. Sick of making my own sacrifices yet constantly hearing about people who are making none whatsoever

Tier 2 following the rules.

We are following all the rules. DH and I spoke about it last night, neither of us are willing to break the rules (law or guidance). I know several people who have tested positive (no close contacts just relatives of friends and friends who we haven't seen), two of whom have been seriously poorly and another who sadly died. We have DM in our bubble and a close friend having chemo so I am following all the rules to keep my family and friends safe.

I am, but my family live far away and I have no friends, so more by design than a willingness to comply really.

I am, except SIL, FIL and nephew came to our garden over the weekend (strangely, that is allowed now although it wasn't a week ago) and the children played together and did not remain 2m apart from each other. My FIL (who is ECV) hugged my DC, but that is him breaking the rules not me. I am a bit unsure about the tier 2 'rule' to reduce the number of journeys you make, what does that mean? Am I breaking the rule by going somewhere that isn't 100% essential? The places are all open still.

If it's illegal then I follow it. If it's advisory then I make a common sense sensible decision based on my circumstances.

Everyone I know is following them less.
I live in an area that has had very, very low numbers of Coronavirus cases, so maybe that's why.

I can't get my head around people actually not seeing their families any more. I totally understand if there is someone with a health issue or elderly, but if you take a step back, it is actually nuts that people are so willing to follow this set of rules. I heard someone say "I can't meet up with you because you're not in my bubble" the other day and It sounds so, so pathetic. Have people actually discussed with one another if they want to be in their "bubble". Maybe it's just me!

I am, because I think the more we mix households indoors (which is how the virus is spreading atm) the more likely the it is that the infection rate will rocket and we will end up in a full UK wide-lockdown (not just a short "circuit break").

I know lots of people say they wouldn't comply with another full lockdown, but even if they don't, it will still ruin even more people financially and kill off even more businesses and jobs. I don't want to have helped cause that.

I am continuing to meet friends inside but this tends to be on a 1:1 basis and no more often than once a fortnight. I will be continuing to do that regardless of 'rules' if they are also comfortable to do so. We're all going to end up getting COVID at some point so I am just facing that reality and trying to keep myself healthy.

We are. We lost FIL at Easter to covid, it has definitely changed the way we view things. We are even going a bit further and limiting things we could do, like outside sports, as we don't want to contract or pass on the virus unnecessarily.

Have 2 dcs, 1 at primary, 1 in 6th form. DH works on building sites and I'm at uni, mainly online but face to face teaching starts again this week. That's a lot of contacts.

I've been sitting outside to see my dm since the dcs went back to school. The other people I would like to see indoors (my ndns, my friends) are all in bubbles with their elderly relatives and I can't guarantee any of us haven't had contact or got it, our necessary circle is pretty big. So I don't want to put anyone at risk for taking it to vulnerable peoples houses.

Personal choice tho, I don't judge anyone else who breaks or bends the rules to aee loved ones or protect mental health. I do judge twats who have big house parties just because tho (looking at you dsis).

We're all going to end up getting COVID at some point so I am just facing that reality and trying to keep myself healthy

But if we all get it within a short time frame, can you imagine the chaos and death that would cause? The restrictions are to stop that happening.

Those breaking the rules and seeing people without social distancing etc because otherwise your mental health would struggle:

I get it. I really do. I’d rather everyone followed the rules because that gives us all the best chance of getting through this ok. But I also can see that for some they can’t manage it because it’s risky for their mental health and that’s important to recognise.

But please take precautions. Masks when you are indoors and turn your face away from each other when you hug. Try and keep 2m as much as possible and keep the house well ventilated. Wash your hands often. It’s not as effective as following the rules but it will help minimise chances of passing the virus on.

I say this not just so you can help to protect us all, by also because you could end up with your mental health damaged in other ways. Guilt if you are asymptomatic and pass it on to someone who then dies (happened to someone we know in early days pre lockdown and they feel awful guilt even though there were no rules to follow at that time). Or if someone you know (or you) don’t get NHS intervention in a timely way and suffer or die unnecessarily - you may feel guilt or have to live with the consequences on your health - both of which could negatively effect your mental health. You will know that you may have unwittingly contributed to the consequences of the infection rate increasing and the news reports of the suffering caused to others. That won’t be great for your mental health either.

Hospital critical care is already struggling. Full in some areas. This means they HAVE to create more capacity because urgent, life threatening situations will always need prioritising. This has an effect on other services as staff need to be redeployed to critical care. So, for example, planned surgery paused.

Also as the ambulance crews deal with more and more Covid cases, they are less able to attend anyone needing them in the same time frame as usual.

These, and more, are the consequences of the virus spreading like it currently is and the only way, at the moment, to slow this down is to keep our distance from others as much as is humanly possible.

I get that it’s hard not to have contact with loved ones. Especially if you live alone and your mental health isn’t great. But we all need to do what we can to keep each other safe. So please, for yourself and others, stick to the rules as much as you can but take the most precautions you can when you don’t.

so if you really need to break the rules please take the most precautions you can while you do it so you know you did what you could.

Sticking to the rules here and go beyond. Always have, and always will, because I’ve seen what it can do to individuals, families and to the NHS and the amazing healthcare workers that look after us at our most vulnerable.

Selfishly, I also, want to limit my chances of getting it - not high risk - but want to avoid for as long as I can, (while the treatments and vaccines develop), an illness that can leave you gasping for breath, hospitalised and consequently traumatised - or with long term heart or lung damage - or mental health issues (psychotic episodes, depression, anxiety). Or death. I have DC so feel I need to minimise that risk as much as I can. This time next year we will know more about it, have better treatments and hopefully a vaccine.

I also hate the idea of unwittingly passing it on and causing others trauma, loss, death etc.

I’m tier 2 and sticking to the rules. Kids are at school so I’m just not prepared to meet anybody inside - just in case dc have it and aren’t showing symptoms. I couldn’t live with myself if I passed it onto my elderly parents

The other thing about not following the rules is that it is giving Johnson a get out of jail free card. When things go even more tits up, he will blame the public.

I’ve broken them, and I’m proud to have broken them. I’m in a tier two and my parents (late 40’s) have come to stay for a few days. My dad has been very unwell and has a much needed scan at a hospital nearby to me. He lives in another part of the country. Like hell would I ‘’stick to the rulez‘’ and risk him missing his much needed treatment.

On a side note, even when they have gone there is no way I will stick to the rules. We are social creatures, we aren’t designed to not socialise. I’m not going to stop seeing friends and family in my house. I’m not going to put up with either only socialising via zoom 🤮 or going on socially distanced walks in the freezing dark, cold and rain 🤮. Especially as I have a condition that makes me very aches and sore in the cold and damp. I was fully compliant the first time round, but now, especially in light of the sheer disregard of MP’s etc. to the rules I can safely say NO WAY!

Side note - this stupid government also seem to forget that not everyone in London has access to lovely little park walks to go on with their nearest and dearest. I have to catch a tube and be in a metal box which hundreds of other people have breathed into to even get to a park etc. Surely it’s much better that my local friends come to my house and vice versa and we don’t have to be in a cramped non-distanced tin box full of germs? 😂

We’re in a tier 3 area and I think people have been following the rules less since we heard we were probably going into it. Mask wearing was nearly 100% a few weeks ago and now it’s 50% I reckon. We went to an outdoor artisan food market yesterday and some woman was literally brushing up against DS (he had a mask on, she didn’t), or neighbours had a play date for their children and one of their mums over at the same time yesterday and a teacher who has been very vocal on FB about the need to shut schools has been on a mini break in Manchester 🤷‍♀️.

I am in that I will go and see my elderly DF who lives alone and sometimes another of my siblings will be there.

I'm an very infrequently going to pubs and very rarely going to restaurants.

I go to a Covid safe workplace and I don't use public transport or go to any shop apart from supermarket once a week. I exercise outdoors alone (with my dog).
I don't go grouse shooting or play football or stay out drinking in the commons bar til late. I don't drive to Barnards castle to test my eyesight.

Therefore I feel very entitled to break the rules for my situation - as I don't use up 'my allowance' in other areas.

The politicians and their advisors don't follow the rules, so I don't.
I also haven't got the track and trace app and will only get it when I am forced to - at that point I will go back to a non-smart phone.

I live in London and going to a diff country to meet a few friends for drinks so no

In Central Belt Scotland and am following the rules pretty much.

Did see a couple of friends (separately) indoors over the last week. Socially distanced. One needed a chat and a coffee and some support.

I’m a teacher so feel I need to be pretty careful as I have a large potential exposure at work and also because I feel it’s the right thing to do.
Friends seem to be pretty much following the rules too. We were supposed to have friends over for dinner. As the rules changed, that turned into dinner out then lunch at the local cafe!

I’ll follow the rules that are logical and haven’t been broken by the very people making them .... oh wait!

We are in local lockdown in Wales and I've noticed that a lot of our neighbours are not complying (mainly family visitors coming to the house, some of whom live in a neighbouring borough so will also be breaking their local lockdown to get here).
Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of all my neighbours family circumstances but I know enough be fairly sure that these visits don't fall under the rules for providing care to vulnerable people etc.

I wouldn't report anyone but I think it's interesting that people who were totally compliant last time have obviously had enough and decided they won't obey the rules this time for whatever reason.