I'm calling it - people aren't complying.

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Local lockdowns aren't working. The North has proven that. Why would it be different in London or anywhere else for that matter? People have stopped complying. They did it in March when it was implied by Bojo that it was going to be a 3 month thing, but as it has become abundantly clear that that this is going to be a way of living until there is a vaccine, and there is no guarantee on a vaccine, people have just said sod it then, I'm not living that way.

I won't be complying. I'll be continuing to see my mum and my sisters. I'd obey it to the letter if it was a 2 week circuit breaker, but as it's clear we're going to have to live this way until at least next Spring, no, I won't be complying.

And for those who say "oh well that's why cases are going up" - until this government kicks itself up the arse and gets a functioning test and trace system in place, they always would anyway. Either it's lockdown or it's cases rising. And most of us aren't prepared to live without seeing family or friends (yes, indoors!) until Spring.

The knowledge of the division still does not appear to register to many, as they accuse those 'contacted to isolate who keep working!' as total monsters though. Instead of being fucking angry that there is no system in place to allow such people to be able to isolate without the possibility of losing their homes, or being unable to feed themselves and their family for a fortnight.

@NRatched

The knowledge of the division still does not appear to register to many, as they accuse those 'contacted to isolate who keep working!' as total monsters though. Instead of being fucking angry that there is no system in place to allow such people to be able to isolate without the possibility of losing their homes, or being unable to feed themselves and their family for a fortnight.

I learned long ago how hard it is for anyone to see facts that might undermine their cozy existence.

@NRatched There is a divided Britain lockdown debate just about to start on Channel 4.

[quote ZombieFan]@TheFormattingIsWrong
I understand your decision that you will ignore the restrictions, let the virus rip through the country and dam the consequences. But the rest of your argument is nonsense.

if there is a risk of my sister committing suicide, nothing will keep me from her
But if their is a risk of your sister dying of Covid, then you wont do anything? 😒

If we had a decent (Track and trace) system in place none of this would be a problem

The UK is doing more testing that any other European country, it physically cant be increased any faster.
People with a positive test could be detained and physically quarantined, maybe bring in the army, but people would just not bother going for a test. 😴
Only something like 10% of people traced are self isolating. People aren't following the T&T restrictions either.
Testing does not pick up asystematic spreaders.
So stop ranting that T&T is some sort of magical solution, it isn't.

they need to get those speedy saliva tests sorted. Then you could all test before a family gathering and it would only go ahead if everyone's test was negative
It isn't a magical solution, it wont pick up asymptomatic spreaders and their are all sorts of reasons why this cant be rolled out until 2021 if ever.[/quote]
All of this. Especially the Track and Trace part. There's way too many people not using or complying with it. That includes businesses not displaying the codes too.

@NRatched

The knowledge of the division still does not appear to register to many, as they accuse those 'contacted to isolate who keep working!' as total monsters though. Instead of being fucking angry that there is no system in place to allow such people to be able to isolate without the possibility of losing their homes, or being unable to feed themselves and their family for a fortnight.

There was a good thread recently about how lockdown has highlighted class divisions and how a lot of working class people cannot afford to isolate or WFH.

Sedona if that's true that we are doing more tests than elsewhere, it will be because the horse has bolted.

Oops wrong thread - I'll get it removed!

[quote HeIenaDove]@NRatched There is a divided Britain lockdown debate just about to start on Channel 4.[/quote]
but only half the posters on this thread (the half that already know how it ends) will watch it ...

First positive student case in my school today. Wondering if that will prompt more parents to test who were thinking it wasn't worth the hassle before.

Also wondering how likely it is that parents of the kids sent home to isolate for two weeks will actually make them isolate over half term? Guessing some will carry on with holiday plans especially if they missed out on holidays over the summer.