Why would anyone behave like this? Liverpool partying scenes

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@Runmybathforme

But that's not correct because they have suffered more.

An older person is more likely to have serious consequences from the virus, and therefore staying at home is safer. This is not the case for a younger person. They are losing freedom for the sake of something they are very likely to survive.

It's a shame you are incapable of seeing how others might feel.

@starrynight19

And putting it into perspective they were dancing and singing. The police came and someone threw a bottle at the car. They then all dispersed and went home. Hardly riots and anarchy.

Yes, they looked good natured to me, just jumping up and down and singing.

We are asking them to give up the most for the least personal benefit

I hope all young people don’t think like that and think about others not just themselves otherwise the next generation is going to be very selfish,

[quote DisgruntledGuineaPig]@Inkpaperstars - who do you think the lockdown is for then if not the older people?

If we all had the response to covid of the 18-25 year olds, that death rate and hospital admissions - we wouldn't even bother giving it an exciting name, let alone do any sort of handwashing campaign or social distancing. "Ooh, theres a nasty flu doing the rounds this year" would be as far as it went.

Restrictions don't benefit them. They benefit older people who have a very different response to the virus.

Yet young people are the ones who's lives have been the most negatively effected.

We are asking them to give up the most for the least personal benefit. [/quote]
This!

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

We are asking them to give up the most for the least personal benefit

I hope all young people don’t think like that and think about others not just themselves otherwise the next generation is going to be very selfish,

But there always has to come a point when you are selfish.

If you always live to benefit others then I personally don't think that's the wisest way.

You have to prioritise yourself sometimes.

Selfless isn't always the best

These young people obviously watched with interest the BLM protests earlier in the year which were tolerated by the authorities, so they assumed that large gatherings of young people ignoring social distancing were perfectly acceptable, and that the rules didn’t apply to everyone equally.

Seems like some people have forgotten that you are supposed have some fun in your life

and that the rules didn’t apply to everyone equally.

Like all the members of Parliament that have broken the rules...

Those young people will have older relatives who they may want to not get ill/die, or even ill relatives who would struggle much more if they we’re infected. If young people infect older people it had a much more of an impact.

Because people are bored witless of all this and have given up, I'd imagine

Maybe they believe life is for living?! Perhaps they don't think cutting themselves off from everyone forever is the best response to what is objectively, only a moderately dangerous illness?

@RuffleCrow Would you like to tell that to my 87 year old dad with COPD and my 71 year old mum who has acute leukaemia, both of whom have stuck to all the rules since March, and who I'm sure are very aware that while what's left of their life should most definitely be for living, they are very much NOT ABLE to venture out the house while selfish people WITH MANY MANY YEARS LEFT OF THEIR LIFE TO LIVE are keeping the infection rate so high.

Only one person under 30 dying is not the point @Keep1984fiction - people under 30 pass it on to others who actually do die.
They are partying because they only think of themselves.,

I'd probably have done the same when I was 18. Taking risks was all part of having a good time.

We're in the Liverpool City Region and those scenes sickened me. Thankfully, the vast majority of people up here are thoughtful towards others.

It's too much responsibility, doom and gloom to put on young shoulders. They should be out socialising, having fun, meeting their friends, having a laugh, dancing 'til they can't stand, meeting boyfriends/girlfriends. Instead they're shut away for 7 months with no end in sight. I'm personally losing the plot and finding the whole thing so utterly depressing. If I had the enthusiasm and hope of youth, I'd be devastated.

I think lock down suits certain people. Sticklers for rules and homebodies. Outgoing, bubbly, sociable beings are really feeling the effects of this.

@MrsDrudge @Cloudburstagain

But if the older people stay at home, isolate and shield, the younger people can't pass it on?

I imagine that they are selfish with no care for others.a bit like the students apical uni Exeter. Doing fine here until the partying students arrived.

It's very own risk for most people that catch it so an I'm alright Jack attitude?

I hope all young people don’t think like that and think about others not just themselves otherwise the next generation is going to be very selfish

But why does this always seem to only work one way? Young people are expected to sacrifice their freedom, education, economic well-being and potentially their mental health to protect the elderly. Great; altruism is a wonderful thing.

Now, what are the older generations doing in turn to support the young? When all this is over, how will they be helping younger generations to get into work/afford property/deal with the aftermath of Covid and Brexit (they voted for it, after all)/rebuild some semblance of a functioning society?

@CurlyhairedAssassin

Maybe they believe life is for living?! Perhaps they don't think cutting themselves off from everyone forever is the best response to what is objectively, only a moderately dangerous illness?

@RuffleCrow Would you like to tell that to my 87 year old dad with COPD and my 71 year old mum who has acute leukaemia, both of whom have stuck to all the rules since March, and who I'm sure are very aware that while what's left of their life should most definitely be for living, they are very much NOT ABLE to venture out the house while selfish people WITH MANY MANY YEARS LEFT OF THEIR LIFE TO LIVE are keeping the infection rate so high.

Your parents are making decisions that suit them. Young people are making decisions that suit them. 2 sides of the same coin - each selfish in their own way.

@RuffleCrow as harsh as this may sound, your parents would be at quite grave risk from any respiratory or gastric virus, however we don't shut down the economy as a result of that usually.

(And before anyone starts, yes I know there's a flu vaccine - it's not always effective and on a bad year many people still die from it).

Can you honestly expect an 87 year old man with COPD who is at high risk should he contract the virus to be the same as a healthy outgoing 20 year old who has minimal risk from the virus? It's selfish to expect them to give up their lives for those at risk. It's a huge ask and it's not fair on them.

For sixth formers and students they have in many cases lost a lot of once in a lifetime/rite of passage experiences that they won't get back. I might have had to spend time at home and missed out on a number of holidays and parties I'd been looking forward to but there'll be other opportunities for those - not so leaving school/graduation etc.

@Londonmummy66: you're forgetting that they won't know any different. Shame on any parents who try to project their own youth experiences onto their children who are no doubt much more resilient and coping perfectly fine without a shirt-signing last day at school, or a boring graduation ceremony. I can't even remember my last day at school, and I only went to my graduation ceremony to please my parents- it's just a thing that you have to sit through for many many people.

Yes, I feel sorry for young people, but not for these trivial little things that you mention. I worry that their university teaching will not be value for money, that they will not be able to use their student accommodation for half the year despite paying for it, that the part time job they were relying on to get them through financially won't be there anymore, that they will be stuck in a minimum wage job when they graduate and their uni experience will be a total waste of money....

@ChaChaCha2012

People have had months of mixed messaging, u turns and outright lies. Many thousands do not believe coronavirus to be a big issue, because the messages from covid deniers has been more convincing than that of the government.

I'm not a rule breaker by my nature, but I can see why people are sick of lies and choosing to ignore official messaging. Why follow the science when the government are not, why listen to experts when the Brexiteers told us not to? Said Brexiteers are now our leaders, how does anyone expect them to be taken seriously?

Are the rising numbers not convincing for you?

Talking about selfishness, the older generation overwhelmingly voted for Brexit, cutting off opportunities for the younger generation.

So I'm not surprised that selfishness is now endemic amongst society. It's handed down.

@Lowkee

Can you honestly expect an 87 year old man with COPD who is at high risk should he contract the virus to be the same as a healthy outgoing 20 year old who has minimal risk from the virus? It's selfish to expect them to give up their lives for those at risk. It's a huge ask and it's not fair on them.

Completely agree. Young people have given up enough already. They need to be allowed to live their lives again now