With no vaccination imminent, how long are we going to keep doing this?

[RubyandBen]

Disrupted education that will impact on some DC forever, sending perfectly healthy DC home from school for 2 weeks again and again, lockdown of university students who will only have mild symptoms (I know there's always one or two who suffer more but the vast majority won't), destroying whole industries hospitality, travel, retail, hundreds of thousands unemployed, huge recession. Not even going to mention the long term impact on all the OTHER non covid illnesses that have been shelved.
If there's no vaccination imminent what's the plan? Are we going to carry on in this horrible limbo that's going to destroy too much or admit defeat and realise people will die?
Before I'm accused of being a mass murderer, I've followed all the rules but don't know how much more I can take of this.

Fucks sake, just listening to sky news, apparently russia is behind a 'disinformation campaign' and one of the things they are convincing people is that the Oxford vaccine will..turn people into monkeys?! What. The. Fuck.

How on earth could anyone besides maybe a very small child take that seriously..

They are still holding firm against a circuit break lockdown from what I can gather online. It appears that the tier system will be in place and it's a kind of ' see how it goes ' approach once that is implemented properly.

@NRatched

Fucks sake, just listening to sky news, apparently russia is behind a 'disinformation campaign' and one of the things they are convincing people is that the Oxford vaccine will..turn people into monkeys?! What. The. Fuck.

How on earth could anyone besides maybe a very small child take that seriously..

It's fair to say that a country that elected Boris Johnson can be considered fair game for anything.

It's fair to say that a country that elected Boris Johnson can be considered fair game for anything.

Good point I guess

@cathyandclare

As I understand it, the Oxford vaccine needs 75 participants to contract the virus to unblind and see whether the COVID vaccine has been effective compared to the meningococcal vaccine. If it is they could apply for an initial licence to vaccinate vulnerable/at risk people. The trial would continue until 150 are exposed.

The powers that be may know if, for example, 74 participants have tested positive. BUT they will have no idea if the numbers are lower in the COVID vaccine group. However, they'll be getting everything ready just in case.

Grateful if anyone more knowledgable could confirm, or tell me I've got it wrong. I'm medical but not involved in trials.

Im not involved with the Oxford vaccine, but another. There are 3 Covid vaccine in the final testing phase. Ive never heard and rules of 75 ppl needing to catch the illness they were vaccinated against. Thats certainly not the case in the one im involved with.

An "influencer" who denied covid existed has recently died of it. He was a 33 year old fitness instructor. Some people will, sadly, always qualify for a Darwin award.

Astra Zeneca released their protocol, they will unblind the trial after 75 cases and potentially apply for a licence. 150 cases is the projected number needed for statistical significance.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/20/human-trials-oxford-vaccine-hold-us-spinal-cord-disease-fears/