Liverpool

[dollychopss]

To shut down for at least 6 months ? This can't be true I am utterly disgusted at the way people are being treated .... the fall out from this will be worse ! Even a WHO scientist had said lockdowns don't work

599.7 cases per 100,000 in Liverpool and some think they are being unfairly treated due to being in a labour stronghold. Ffs! The figures speak for themselves.

@Itsabeautifuldayheyhey

You guys need to fight back this should not be happening ..... I am so fucking angry with the scientists advising this bullshit with their cushty salaries I don't care what people say the fall out from this will be worse

Do you have any reason to believe the scientists have advised a 6 month restriction on travel outside of Liverpool? It is reported by BBC Breakfast and confirmed by the Metro Mayor of Liverpool, that negotiations are still ongoing this morning.

What do you suggest is done to fight back? Ignoring restrictions will just make it worse. That is probably was has caused the situation we are now in.

I'm peed off that my city will probably go into tier 3 and my postponed UK holiday will probably be cancelled. The PHE interactive map shows infections rates/number of Covid cases is high in the university areas of my city.

Do you really think scientists, if they did advise this, would advise it if they didn't truly believe this was the only way to protect people's lives?

What about protecting poverty /suicides/delayed treatments sorry I don't agree I read of 4 people on Twitter feeling suicidal due to these lockdowns it is inhuman even Madrid fought back

@Itsabeautifuldayheyhey
Nottingham 761 per 100,000
Manchester 575 per 100,000

Why just Liverpool?

@Itsabeautifuldayheyhey

599.7 cases per 100,000 in Liverpool and some think they are being unfairly treated due to being in a labour stronghold. Ffs! The figures speak for themselves.

Other parts of the country are as high, or quickly getting up there. As has been said, Nottingham has now additional restrictions yet. Parts of Lancashire are almost as high as Liverpool, but will apparently be in Tier 2.

Sending everyone in Liverpool a big (((((HUG)))).

(Socially distanced of course!)

As PP’s have already mentioned, I’m equally confused why Liverpool is in the spotlight but not Nottingham.

The University of Liverpool has set up its own Covid-19 testing centre, as have the universities in Nottingham, Leeds etc. I'm sure the figures the new restrictions are based on would look very different if this wasn't the case. Maybe people should consider that before blaming local residents for non compliance with the rules.

@ElizabethG81

The Liverpool City Region is as Labour as it comes (with the exception of the Wirral). Much easier to make an example of than Greater Manchester which now has some Tory MPs on the outskirts. This government will tear Liverpool to the ground as it's an easy target.

Wirral could hardly be more Labour than having 4 constituencies with a Labour MP in each...

I do wonder whether we’d have found ourselves an exception if Wirral hadn’t turned red in 2015.

Sorry! There's been so many General Elections in the past few years that I've lost track! I thought Esther McVey had a Wirral constituency quite recently but it's obviously further back than I thought.

@ElizabethG81

The Liverpool City Region is as Labour as it comes (with the exception of the Wirral). Much easier to make an example of than Greater Manchester which now has some Tory MPs on the outskirts. This government will tear Liverpool to the ground as it's an easy target.

That and they don't want to get into a fight with Andy Burnham who has threatened legal action

For me personally, tier 3 is far too restrictive, it’s a live to work lifestyle - go to work because we need you to pay taxes but stay at home at weekends, completely isolated from family and friends, no activity for children. It’s right back to full lockdown only with schools up and running again.

I appreciate it is a very difficult balance to strike but with no end in sight, for me personally this is just a step too far. I appreciate that I may feel very differently if someone in my family was very high risk and potentially having to shield for the foreseeable future though.

Isn’t it more to do with hospital capacity? Manchester and Nottingham have more beds per capita than Liverpool, so whilst their numbers are worse, a less severe lockdown in needed?

I’m gutted for my hometown but I don’t think it’s a conspiracy. It will the first of many, I assume.

Liverpool's hospital set up is bizarre. About 6 separate specialist hospitals. It must make joined up care very difficult. Hence why Alder Hey hang on to their special needs children into their thirties. I live in Nottingham we have two huge hospitals under one trust. I considered moving to alder hey but the set up was one of the reason I did t.

@ElizabethG81

Sorry! There's been so many General Elections in the past few years that I've lost track! I thought Esther McVey had a Wirral constituency quite recently but it's obviously further back than I thought.

She was voted out in 2015. Tatton has her now.

@Pachonga

Isn’t it more to do with hospital capacity? Manchester and Nottingham have more beds per capita than Liverpool, so whilst their numbers are worse, a less severe lockdown in needed?

I’m gutted for my hometown but I don’t think it’s a conspiracy. It will the first of many, I assume.

Hasn't helped that Liverpool were supposed to have a new main hospital built by now but Carillion went bust and messed up the build half way through. Now it's back under construction after years of toil to get it restarted but the Royal was supposed to be knocked down by now.

I’m reading that traveling outside Merseyside is highly inadvisable but not strictly illegal. Anyone know the official position on this?

I really want to know about :
support bubbles
swimming pools

@stopgap

I’m reading that traveling outside Merseyside is highly inadvisable but not strictly illegal. Anyone know the official position on this?

I want to know this too. We have a weekend away booked (no contact key collection), I want to deliver some items to my mum in her care home (doorstep drop), and I want to go for a walk with my DS. All out of area, very low risk, but apparently forbidden. I’ll happily use my “common sense“, unless it’s actually illegal.

I could still go to Wetherspoons though. Fantastic.

@Itsabeautifuldayheyhey
"599.7 cases per 100,000 in Liverpool and some think they are being unfairly treated due to being in a labour stronghold. Ffs! The figures speak for themselves."
so many Tory shills on this site these days

I live in Nottingham. My support bubble lives in Liverpool. Arghh! I'm supposed to be going on Saturday. Be gutted if I can't go as I don't want to spend my birthday on my own.

@Toddlerteaplease

I live in Nottingham. My support bubble lives in Liverpool. Arghh! I'm supposed to be going on Saturday. Be gutted if I can't go as I don't want to spend my birthday on my own.

Still seems confusing: twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1315694406721249281/photo/1

Main advice regarding travel in or out is no overnight stays.

liverpool perhaps has more over 60s being admitted to hospital
but i think andy burnham is waiting for a better financial package

There’s a lot of denial on here and I’m from Liverpool and work there

I was in L1 yesterday as it was busier than ever and seriously 30% wearing masks in shops total

At Johns market area, masks worn by prob less than 20%

I get train home from Kirkby from work and no one wears a mask- literally no one

I go the garage - no masks

Not even staff

Concert square at the weekend is booming with people on the Shish pipes! 6 sharing one pipe!!! It’s crazy!

It’s not unique to Liverpool its going to rise in all areas where majority are working etc

We have so many unis and so many tourists it’s bound to happen but don’t deny behaviour

As to why us and not Manchester it’s to do with hospital admissions

We have over 250 in hospital compared to 380 at peak

90 in Whiston alone

I’ve heard from nurse friend there’s over 100 in hosp just at aintree

We are in more vulnerable position services wide

@Ginogineli you have a completely different experience to me (L20 area)

We’re in Liverpool.
This weekend my daughter was sent a message from her Liverpool uni to self isolate as another student had a positive test.
She had attended one day!
She has worked 2 jobs, been to Italy and other breaks in this country, been out with Friends all without an incident.
University for 5 hours and now having to self isolate.
Also no message from track and trace so that’s not working.
It was impossible to get a test here a few weeks ago so that probably didn’t help either.