Why is China not seeing an increase in cases?

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Or are they not just recording it?

Wouldn't believe a word of it

They test trace and isolate, and it is all compulsory.

Not sure those replies are helpful.
China seems to be getting back to some level of normality. The motor show was held in Beijing this week.
I do keep wondering why they are not having a second wave.

Can't believe you actually posted this they said 4000 people out of about 2 billion died they lied people died and I heard a professor say they other say she thinks man made ...

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Not sure those replies are helpful. China seems to be getting back to some level of normality. The motor show was held in Beijing this week. I do keep wondering why they are not having a second wave.

My guess they have a vaccine or treatment

Because they have no inhibitions about taking an authoritarian approach, and have plenty of enforcement and will use harsh sanctions against transgressors.

And their actions aren’t really scrutinised - international media is being totally parochial

I haven’t seen any media question it which seems odd! In my opinion it’s because they have covered up since the beginning but why are the media not highlighting this any more?!

Can’t trust anything they say

They had a total lockdown. The virus had nowhere to spread because no-one was coming into contact with those infected. Much easier to do when there's an authoritarian rule.

I understand they also have strict isolation processes for anyone travelling in or around the country. Again, its mandatory.

While I dont support totalitarianism, one may question whether a month of total lockdown and ongoing stricter isolation at the borders would have much, much less painful than the number of deaths, time weve had under "less interfering" restrictions and damage to the economy

Seems strange that it started there and while the rest of the world is on its knees they are sitting pretty....

I follow ‘the tourism teacher’ on Instagram, she is a british woman who lives in China with her family. It is currently a national holiday in China and looking at the videos she is posting you would never know we were in a world wide pandemic. Massive queues, no social distancing, some mask wearing. Just crazy.

@PracticingPerson

They test trace and isolate, and it is all compulsory.

This, in a nutshell.

Same strategy as NZ or the Isle of Man but with added authoritarian dictatoring.

I don't understand why people think China would be unable to keep a lid on this virus. They had lots of practice with SARS and they are able to exert heavy control over the Chinese people with very little regard for human rights.

Apparently their economy is booming. No one is travelling abroad, they're all staying in China......

What here’sme said could be taken two ways, released the virus or released the vaccine, the latter of which is how interpreted it

I have a family member who lives and works in Shanghai (she’s British). She says things are nearly back to normal and I have no reason to disbelieve her. I suspect the Chinese government lied about cases but honestly day to day life does seem to be largely back to normal, but with restrictions on travel and everyone has apps and permits to show where they’ve been. It’s a very different society.

For those arrogant and unhelpful replies probably nobody really cares what you believe or not but for a pandemic to this scale, nobody with some form of information flow can really lie about it. Maybe people can say 50 instead of 500 okay or 0 instead of 300 but an excel error can easily ‘hide’ Over 10000. If you bother with good quality news not just heard from this or that person, it’s not difficult to see the normality there.

For work reasons I interviewed two Chinese professors amongst others over the last couple of weeks. One recently back from visiting her daughter in Canada and the other back to Shanghai from the US. Both took my calls from quarantine hotel rooms where they stayed for two weeks with food delivered to the door. They apparently looked forward to going home but didn’t hear a tiny bit of complaint about the inconvenience to their individual precious freedom.

A boy from DC’s school flew back to China in March and shared their experience. Upon landing, they were all ferried to a stadium where mass tests were performed before people were taken to quarantine hotels. This boy’s family applied and granted home quarantine as they had the space for that purpose but the father said once there they chose to go to a hotel with the majority. They hadn’t realised before how much work they would generate for community staff with home quarantine -Temperature checks twice a day, grocery delivery, paperwork etc.
It’s a different world there for sure but not as that portrayed by some media.

I bet their apps work properly, too.

China has had repeated emergent outbreaks in cities.

June

July

August

September

From the off they know what was coming, what was expected and they followed the guidelines. Several other countries went straight to wearing masks and naturally social distancing/extra hygiene.

Brits took much longer to wear masks, far too many people breaking the rules and you have continued spread.

People spread the virus. People continued to travel and the borders stayed open.

Similar in Vietnam. Heard a woman call in to LBC today from there. Strict lockdown Feb - April, cases down to zero before opening up, an app that everyone downloaded before things opened up. Tightly controlled testing/isolation. Anyone positive stays in hospital - with or without symptoms. If you need a test you call, someone comes to take the swab, results in around 6 hrs, if positive an ambulance comes to take you to hospital.
If case numbers are that low, they won't need to do anywhere near as many tests.
It's no wonder our testing system can't cope!

Maybe because, despite being an evil authoritarian dictatorship (or maybe because of it) they have got their shit together unlike this joke of a government in the UK.

Also maybe because the population understand what hell on earth a prolonged pandemic would be rather than complaining that mask wearing, pubs closing early and not being able to hold little Johnny's birthday party this are the worse thing that could happen.

No I don’t think they’re lying. If they had widespread Covid all over a country of 1 billion plus people, it wouldn’t be possible to hide. We saw what was happening in Wuhan at the start of this.

They have dealt with it as others have said by having experience of SARS and therefore taking it very seriously very early (if not early enough), and being able to take measures that authoritarian governments can do. China really do not care about your privacy or civil liberties. But that doesn’t mean that they’re covering up a national epidemic or that they released the virus on purpose.