Why is China not seeing an increase in cases?

[ProseccoSupernova]

Or are they not just recording it?

Their heavy lockdown was nothing like ours and the tourist boarders are closed.
My best friend lives there so I get constant updates.

1. the government cannot really be believed on official figures,given their regime, and 2) the population, for reasons I shouldn't need to explain here, are much more law-abiding (and less bolshy) and likely to follow rules than for example UK citizens.

@Lollipity
Good to know re visas. My best friend had to apply for a new one (she is Australian) and will finally get back to China in November. I think there are also some regional variations too, now especially with quarantine periods. Friend of mine went back to shanghai about 10 days ago and only had one night in a hotel then 13 days home isolation.

@Oliversmumsarmy
China certainly has a pollution problem, but getting better and no where near as bad as I experienced in India.
Bureaucratic- definitely, but that is the norm for non nationals. I lived in Germany and Austria for years and experienced plenty of bureaucracy there.
Sexism? Not really. To paraphrase Mao: women hold up half the sky.
People being compliant: in the context of the pandemic certainly, because people were scared of the virus and little was known about the consequences and transmission, how far it would spread etc. I was certainly more than happy to put on my mask.
I lived in the east of China for 12 years and it really is the most amazing country. There are certainly issues to be addressed, but their handling of the pandemic in terms of testing, strict regulations and quarantine is far superior to the shambolic approach I have seen in the uk.

Everywhere else eats meat and doesn’t have these viral outbreaks.
Shouldn’t we be looking at what China does that leaves them open to keep producing these viruses

We only gave the world mad cow disease

And west central Africa, HIV (primates)

And Middle East, MERS (camels)

Africa, Ebola (likely bays)

But please feel free to go ahead with China bashing

(bats, not bays)

I spent most of my life doing aid work in Africa in very rural areas with little, or no, access to healthcare.
I do realise that Africa consists of many different countries and cultures and can only generalise about the different countries I have lived and worked in and others I have visited.
Children died regularly from illnesses like malaria and others no longer seen as dangerous here like polio and measles.
The first experience I had of this was being asked to attend the funeral of a 6 year old child who had died of malaria. She had been playing with my children two days previously.
I would love to believe this virus is being controlled in remote rural areas, the sort where I have seen people pushing a patient for several days in a wheelbarrow to get to hospital.
In some cases no records are kept of births and deaths and people who die have to be buried quickly. So we’ll really never know the figures in a lot of cases.
Men and young people often leave their home villages to work in cities, sending money home to their villages to support their families.
These people will be more at risk of infection in overcrowded cities. Hopefully they are not taking it back to their villages but, if they become unwell and lose their jobs, returning home will often be their only option.
Many have youth on their side but very many will not have access to good food which boosts their immune systems.
All I/we can do is hope.

I haven't read this whole thread but something I keep thinking is that if countries keep finding cases before the official notification from Wuhan how can it even be proven to have started there? Couldn't it have started elsewhere and Wuhan was just the first to notice it was novel

The Chinese government knew what was going on before it notified the rest of the world.
It just chose to discredit the doctors and anyone who were telling them their was a problem.

Love the idea that everyone in China is well behaved naturally. Looking at their prison population and it doesn’t look that bad but like everything it ignores the detention centres and re-education camps. Everything is down played to make the surface look good.

Yes Aridane other countries aren’t blameless in producing different diseases We produced BSE but then put in place controls so it wouldn’t happen again. China have produced 3 whilst I have been an adult and still they haven’t done anything about their practices to stop these viruses occurring again and again.

They have to weigh up the peoples choice to buy live animals that they are going to kill for a recipe to producing a virus that could make Covid look like a slight sniffle.

What if the next virus they produce ends up killing the majority of human life instead of just a percentage.

Love the idea that everyone in China is well behaved naturally. Looking at their prison population and it doesn’t look that bad but like everything it ignores the detention centres and re-education camps. Everything is down played to make the surface look good.

The Chinese diaspora is not known for high crime or anti social behaviour. Their government aside they are in general an immigrant group that adds to the societies they enter.

You can criticise the state but some of these comments veer into something else.

Yes Aridane other countries aren’t blameless in producing different diseases We produced BSE but then put in place controls so it wouldn’t happen again.

I seem to remember a whole 'eating horse meat' debacle after that. Maybe I misremember.

Evolution is an arms race. Diseases reproduce and mutate. That's the whole point of life. The actual issue is humans being arrogant enough to think evolution doesn't apply to us.

It's Jurassic Park. Life finds a way.

"Yes, China is an authoritarian state, however quarantine experiences aside, it isn't something that really affects your daily life."

A few million Uighurs probably don't agree with that statement!

Oliver mumsarmy
Controls have been put in place to improve standards in wet markets and the sale of exotic species was banned back in February.
Not sure where you got the idea that people are well behaved naturally in China. Is this just some Asian stereo type that you like to trot out?
I mentioned that we complied as we were scared. Back in January we had no idea what was happening, the incubation period, the possible consequences so yes, we wore masks. Wouldn’t you?

I lived in China for 12 years and it is pretty safe. I would happily walk alone at night in the city i lived in (population 8 million) and only once did I feel uncomfortable and that was in Xinjiang province in the west of China.
Th treatment of uighurs has definitely deteriorated over the past 8 years, mostly under the guise of preventing terrorist attacks.