Why is China not seeing an increase in cases?

[ProseccoSupernova]

Or are they not just recording it?

No real freedom of the press in China. The Chinese propaganda machine is very well controlled. There were two a very good documentaries earlier on this year. One was reporting on the crematoriums going 24/7, the other was on two whistle blowers who kept trying to report what was going on (very, very brave souls, one young man said something along the lines of "I have the government behind me, I have the Virus in front of me, I am scared but I will keep reporting" as he was filming, there was a knock on his door, and he was taken away and never heard of again.
In several years the truth will eventually come out.

So much western arrogance on view here!

I don't know the reason. It's almost like they've managed it better than us.

Thailand no cases for weeks and 14 day on entry strict quarantine. Seems like the equation is freedom is a great friend of viral spread whereas authoritarianism is it's deadliest enemy. Lockdowns and fingers crossed for the vaccine seem to be our only tools at the moment and the subsequent trashing of our economy.

Seems strange that it started there and while the rest of the world is on its knees they are sitting pretty....

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they took fast decisive action? Also, the rest of the world is not 'on its knees'.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they took fast decisive action? Also, the rest of the world is not 'on its knees'.

They took action quickly because they knew about months before they told anyone as we can see from proven cases in Europe from at least October. With over a million dead so far and destroyed economies the world is on its knees and the virus is nowhere near done.

They did take action and they showed e.g. UK what to do - masks, testing, quarantine.

We decided washing hands was all that was needed and that going to the races would be fine.

I've no love for totalitarian state approach but China and New Zealand both got on with it.

The countries hardest hit tried to ignore it.

Not without sacrifice for sure.

No, I just wonder who decided on the sacrifice bit, the doctors and their teams or someone else decided for them.

@PracticingPerson

They did take action and they showed e.g. UK what to do - masks, testing, quarantine.

We decided washing hands was all that was needed and that going to the races would be fine.

I've no love for totalitarian state approach but China and New Zealand both got on with it.

The countries hardest hit tried to ignore it.

Yes hand washing and going to the races. And somehow clapping every Thursday evening for the NHS was a major focus in the "war effort" against the virus. 😩

I'd still rather live in the UK.

We have strict employment laws in the UK - the cost of having enough people standing by to be at the home of any returnee or suspected case within 6 hours to do swab tests (as was described in Vietnam I think it was - above) all at paid above teh minimum wage, plus cost of their travel, vehicles etc etc. NI, holiday pay etc etc is probably sooooo much higher here then there as to be unfeasible.
Also possibly many fewer fly per head of pop than here so it is more easily controlled.

@yeOldeTrout

That's a lot to me. Nigeria had over 1000 deaths. It's not like there's been no impact.

What an idiotic comment. 206,000,000 people live in Nigeria.

This is the question western countries should be asking, but due to racism, exceptionalism and arrogance that Asian and African countries can't possibly know what they're doing they instead compare their 'success' to other failures such as Sweden and the USA.

So you don't hear the press talking about the $1 ten minute covid tests Senegal developed months ago or the countries where life has managed to go on relatively unscathed.

Having said that, Boris hasn't even learnt from what has gone on in European countries, so there's no hope in hell he'll look for answers from non-white people.

@AKissAndASmile

This is the question western countries should be asking, but due to racism, exceptionalism and arrogance that Asian and African countries can't possibly know what they're doing they instead compare their 'success' to other failures such as Sweden and the USA.

So you don't hear the press talking about the $1 ten minute covid tests Senegal developed months ago or the countries where life has managed to go on relatively unscathed.

Having said that, Boris hasn't even learnt from what has gone on in European countries, so there's no hope in hell he'll look for answers from non-white people.

I totally agree. Ah well at least we all get to have a really, really tough winter with a confused and confusing hotch potch of local lockdowns and government u-turns. Plenty to moan about at least. Yes, yes I'd really still rather live in the UK.

People in China are frightened of their government (for good reason). Hell they're frightened if thinking the wrong thing, let alone doing it.

There is no free press in China. Everything is curated both internally and for external release.

Having said that, Boris hasn't even learnt from what has gone on in European countries, so there's no hope in hell he'll look for answers from non-white people
I don't much listen to the news but last night The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany were having a rise in cases, some as serious as ours, and Paris is in lockdown I think.

Yes hand washing and going to the races. And somehow clapping every Thursday evening for the NHS was a major focus in the "war effort" against the virus.

But by and large we are DEFINITELY the world leaders in pathetic whingeing. Critical bleating. Self pitying indulgence.
Does ANY other country go on like this???

I have lived in the US and though there is much you could criticise there is still an 'I can do it', determined, pioneer spirit.

Not the pathetic blame everyone but me one we have here.

With over a million dead so far and destroyed economies the world is on its knees and the virus is nowhere near done.

Excuse me, but some of us actually live in countries which are not on their knees. The fact of the matter is the UK have not, and never had, any clear plan of attack and they are paying the price. We all knew about covid for some time before action was taken, but some countries took effective action while others dithered and did stuff all - until they found they had left it too late.

Excuse me, but some of us actually live in countries which are not on their knees

Well good for you that you are not one of the millions with their lives destroyed. It was widespread in Europe before full disclosure.

Well said @Straven123.

Well good for you that you are not one of the millions with their lives destroyed. It was widespread in Europe before full disclosure.

I'm not gloating, merely replying to someone who stated that 'the rest of the world is on its knees'. Many parts of the world have dealt with the virus in a much more effective way than the UK has - but of course the UK has a very superior attitude and is unwilling to accept that just maybe they got it wrong! Incidentally, I was unemployed for 18 months before covid - but apparently only those affected by covid are worthy of any sort of empathy.

@mellongoose

I'd still rather live in the UK.

Me too

This situation is just starting.

I’m not convinced there aren’t a lot of cases undetected away from the cities, or that the government isn’t just covering up the number of cases. But I work for a really big multinational company and our China offices are the only ones worldwide that are open atm, which does indicate to me that they really don’t have a second wave being hidden... I have regular Teams meetings with colleagues in the Beijing office and they say the same. I don know if Chinese censorship is powerful enough to stop my colleagues admitting in a one-on-one Teams meeting that cases are high there.

Compliance to hygiene, social distancing and mask wearing rules, climate affecting longevity of naked virus and previous experience with other coronaviruses.