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Circuit breaker Scotlandn

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User56770987 · 06/10/2020 05:49

www.thesun.co.uk/news/12855670/coronavirus-scotland-lockdown-sturgeon-circuit-breaker/

It's really happening according to the Sun. Do you think its worth it? Will England follow during their half term?

OP posts:
ListeningQuietly · 06/10/2020 12:27

I think it does make sense to try to get a grip on the figures again.
But at what cost?

Lost schooling
lost jobs
more cancer deaths
lost businesses
more mental health deaths

Glitterkitten24 · 06/10/2020 12:33

She has said no lockdown like March, no school closures and no travel ban. The bigger announcement will be tomorrow now.

Wonder what measures could be given those have been ruled out?!

Dawnlassie · 06/10/2020 12:36

Cant see it working this winter. Too many MPs not leading by example. for people to care anymore.

emptyshelvesagain · 06/10/2020 12:44

We are preparing (unofficially) for a week of ''blended learning' after our October week. We all had to confirm a couple of weeks ago that all children in our class had access to the internet.

It was pretty obvious then what was coming.

We had to do this months ago. It was no indication of what was coming, and certainly not an 'obvious' sign of closures.

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 06/10/2020 12:52

@Glitterkitten24 doesn’t leave much to make a difference then apart from closing pubs and bars really the.

dementedpixie · 06/10/2020 12:58

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54434561

Doesn't sound like a 2 week school holiday is happening after all

pepperminttaste · 06/10/2020 13:03

@emptyshelvesagain

It's a pretty obvious sign we're preparing for the possibility of another lockdown/blended learning. Whether it happens or not is another matter but it it absolutely is a indication that councils are being proactive. Rightly so.

Khajit · 06/10/2020 13:05

I guess that means closing bars and restaurants then? I can't really think of anything else if it's not a travel ban or school closures.

CoffeeandCroissant · 06/10/2020 13:09

"We are not proposing another lockdown at this stage, not even on a temporary basis"
"We are not going to be asking you to stay inside your own homes the way we did in March."
"We are not about to impose travel restrictions on the whole of the country."
"We are not about to shut down the entire economy."
"We are not about to halt the remobilisation of the NHS."
"We are not proposing to close schools."
From 12:40 post at www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-54417133

weebarra · 06/10/2020 13:21

I think they may close hospitality or at least make it individuals from the same family only.

ListeningQuietly · 06/10/2020 13:24

Close hospitality = thousands of job losses and hundreds of businesses lost for ever

Furlough ends in a few weeks.
ONLY those at work get help from next moth.
Closed businesses are dead businesses

  • cinemas
  • theatres
  • museums
  • restaurants
  • nightclubs
  • gardens
  • pubs
  • leisure centres
And once they close, the unemployment figures will rocket
emmathedilemma · 06/10/2020 13:26

"We are not about to impose travel restrictions on the whole of the country."......doesn't mean they won't impose them on specific areas.....

wishfull888 · 06/10/2020 13:29

Don't know what the answer is. In local lockdown here for best part of a month & absolutely everyone around us is breaking the rules 🤷🏼‍♀️

emptyshelvesagain · 06/10/2020 13:40

It's a pretty obvious sign we're preparing for the possibility of another lockdown/blended learning. Whether it happens or not is another matter but it it absolutely is a indication that councils are being proactive. Rightly so.

If your council are only doing it now they are not being proactive at all. Ours checked who had access to the internet in June, set up books or computer access in schools that were operating as hubs through the summer and have ensured that every family will have access to the internet somehow if it becomes necessary. That is being proactive. Doing it now is late. It's certainly not an obvious sign of anything other than lack of organisation

User56770987 · 06/10/2020 13:49

I think there will be travel restrictions affecting some parts of the country as she said 'not affecting the whole of the country'

OP posts:
Qasd · 06/10/2020 13:54

No lockdown worked for two weeks even New Zealand who locked down super early did it for seven. This really will reduce cases for two weeks only for them to rise again quickly and if anything push more covid cases deeper into winter (when there is less likely to be the hospital capacity to cope).

It’s becoming clear to me the answer to this is in longer term solutions and things like boris admitting the rule of six will be in place for at least six months rather than short term solutions that don’t solve anything really just move the problem around.

pepperminttaste · 06/10/2020 14:05

@emptyshelvesagain

Eh? They double checked every definitely had internet access. Not sure where you're drawing your other conclusions from but on you go.

Ecosse · 06/10/2020 14:10

Absolutely @Qasd, the rule of six whole difficult is a sustainable measure that can be implemented over a longer period of time and I think more people will be willing to stick to it.

People will simply not abide by a total ban on meeting others indoors (many aren’t complying at the moment) indefinitely. If she bans meeting people in pubs and cafes, they will be even more likely to meet in houses.

emptyshelvesagain · 06/10/2020 14:15

[quote pepperminttaste]@emptyshelvesagain

Eh? They double checked every definitely had internet access. Not sure where you're drawing your other conclusions from but on you go.[/quote]

I took it from your post earlier....

We all had to confirm a couple of weeks ago that all children in our class had access to the internet. It was pretty obvious then what was coming.

emptyshelvesagain · 06/10/2020 14:17

Posted too soon Blush

I then went on to respond that it was not at all o books what was coming, and it's still not, because lots of schools did this a long time ago.

Asking if people have internet is no indication of upcoming lockdown

emptyshelvesagain · 06/10/2020 14:17

O books =. OBVIOUS Blush

NotAnActualSheep · 06/10/2020 14:32

I can't say I'm relieved by her "not" statements, really. The "no national travel ban" thing sounds like almost certainly there will be local travel limits/ local bans, and probably a ban on non essential public transport use, which scuppers families without a car anyway.

"No closing schools" is maybe a bit reassuring, though I do fear they would class blended learning as not closing schools (as a third of the children would be in each day). Hoping the backlash against that, and their weaselling out of earlier commitments would make them think twice about that though. Worried about out of school childcare...would hope that would be permitted, but not confident.

I agree the list of closures that listening suggested are likely, which will be a death knell for many I would think. Also, fun things that don't involve (much) money that aren't already banned I would think will be restricted. Things like places of worship, unregulated children's groups or community groups, libraries (not that ours has reopened yet, but hey), possibly community sports and so on.

God, this is depressing. I feel like my life is shrivelling away to work, school run, sofa and bed...And I don't even have any work at the moment.

Is there any chance Arthur's seat or some other dormant volcano could choose now to erupt and end the year nicely?

cologne4711 · 06/10/2020 15:17

it’s just a fact that limiting trips outside means less transmission of the virus

That's not true at all. There is very very little evidence indeed of transmission outside. It may make sense to close pubs or reduce their opening hours more (though I suspect they'd close for good, then) and no evidence that travelling more than 5 miles from your home or crossing county borders increases the likelihood of the virus spreading.

The rules in Scotland have been stricter all along. At first the rate of cases was much less than in England, but that's not the case anymore (at least in comparison with most of the south of England), so clearly the restrictions aren't working. Doesn't seem much point making them stricter.

MarshaBradyo · 06/10/2020 15:23

@emptyshelvesagain

It's a pretty obvious sign we're preparing for the possibility of another lockdown/blended learning. Whether it happens or not is another matter but it it absolutely is a indication that councils are being proactive. Rightly so.

If your council are only doing it now they are not being proactive at all. Ours checked who had access to the internet in June, set up books or computer access in schools that were operating as hubs through the summer and have ensured that every family will have access to the internet somehow if it becomes necessary. That is being proactive. Doing it now is late. It's certainly not an obvious sign of anything other than lack of organisation

Yep June here too
MarshaBradyo · 06/10/2020 15:28

[quote CoffeeandCroissant]"We are not proposing another lockdown at this stage, not even on a temporary basis"
"We are not going to be asking you to stay inside your own homes the way we did in March."
"We are not about to impose travel restrictions on the whole of the country."
"We are not about to shut down the entire economy."
"We are not about to halt the remobilisation of the NHS."
"We are not proposing to close schools."
From 12:40 post at www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-54417133[/quote]
That’s sounds better than the op

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