People STILL not wearing masks on London buses

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I had to take a journey by bus earlier. There were about 10 people on the bus, three of whom were not wearing masks. Drivers need to stop letting people on without masks - these selfish passengers are putting everyone else’s lives at risk!

www.chichester.co.uk/news/crime/pagham-man-63-attacked-after-defending-school-girl-face-mask-row-2985959

Yes people are getting quite heated about this. Might be something to do with worrying about dying? You know you're on a bus and there's a large number of people on that bus (either at that time or just before you got on) and you're there with your mask on that isn't a respirator because you've been told only the NHS need those but then you've got people just coughing and breathing right into your face? And you've got fuck all protection.

You're already stressed about being in such close contact with people. But you have to work because, you know, money. And you know those people never wear masks. And they all appear to be able to (though of course how can you tell?) and no one is wearing anything that says otherwise. Teenagers (who of course are known for their consideration and caution) and groups of young men (all with the same mystery illness. It must be. They are probably travelling on an urgent medical trip together. As part of a support group).

Yep. Unreasonable AF to get upset about it in a global pandemic. Obviously the people who can't wear masks must have the right to travel freely and to not ever have to show that they have a reason. Because who on earth would travel without a mask just because they can't be arsed?

And anyway, who fucking cares? It's not like anyone's going to die. So the ablist scum can just suck it up can't they? Arseholes the lot of them.

Well im sure IF the schoolgirl was coughing into the mans face then the investigation will establish that in the fullness of time. Because schoolgirls DO make a habit of doing that.

We have assault being condoned now. Truly Black Mirror.

Whos condoning assault? Or are you mind reading and projecting again? Victim hood is such a comforting place isn't it? That righteous anger as the rest of the world doesn't manage to meet your lofty standards! Oh the thrill of being always right. Woker than woke! On the side of the oppressed! The rest of us have to worry about boring shit like making money and getting to work. But not the Social Justice Warrior! Oh no!

No mundane capitalist crap for you. You're making a difference. I can only hang my head in shame. And probably try and get some sleep because I have to work. Oh the curse of being a mundane non social justice warrior not saving the world from the evil forces of everyone who just doesn't fucking get it.

All that screaming and being furious must be pretty hard on the old nerves though? Us boring shitty people just have a laugh or a glass of wine. But such low brow avenues arent an option for the morally superior. Still there's always herbal tea I suppose?

There is NO excuse for assault NONE. If he was concerned he could have chosen the appropriate course of action and reported it. Some of them MAY have been exempt but they also may NOT have been. He could have reported it and let the authorities deal with it. I wonder why he didnt.

If its woke to object to someone being assaulted then i will gladly wear that label. What if he the victim had died. It only takes one punch in the wrong place.

@MarriedtoDaveGrohl I understand the worry about this virus My DH and my DM are high risk But people cannot go around assaulting each other no matter what side of the debate they are on.

Sorry, Helena where exactly did MarriedtoDaveGrohl condone assault?

She was venting, the way many of us who have to work do.

She even wasn’t shouting in capitals or calling non Mask wearers shits or anything.

"Yes people are getting quite heated about this. Might be something to do with worrying about dying?"

I would guess it is the above response to someone being assualted.

I wasn't condoning assault. I was simply providing you with a possible motive and pointing out that people are afraid for their lives and why, since no one here apart from a few seems to care about what the vast majority of working people on public transport think.

Kind of a bit 'let them eat cake' in many ways all of this 'too bad they should put up with it people don't have to wear masks' commentary. Personally I wouldn't catch a bus but I can empathise with those that do.

But all of the tv programmes about crime will give background about what was in the criminals mind without condoning it. So it's a bit strange to read my comments as condoning and speaks to an amount of projection and mind reading.

Don't think you are reading my mind. I don't condone violence. But it is going to happen - I didn't cause it and I can't stop it and I dont approve of it.

What if he the victim had died. It only takes one punch in the wrong place.

I particularly love the delicious irony of this though. People decide not to wear masks then travel on crowded public transport after being in a densely populated area (a school) in the middle of a pandemic. After numerous cases of Covid crop up in schools.

Hm. I think we might see slightly more people dying because of that rather than being punched. Just a hunch but I think that it might not be that safe to be on the bus with that schoolgirl. Regardless if she's exempt or not.

If I was elderly or vulnerable I would be 100% unwilling to go anywhere near buses due to non mask wearers. I'm guessing that the elderly along with working commuters don't matter on planet woke either though. Not instagrammable enough. Not a cool enough cause. They just dont matter. I mean, hey we all have to die sometime right?

Oh and to those who have never been on a bus (many here apparently) they are low ceilinged tin boxes with lots of people squashed in and little air circulating. You are breathing in disease and germs whether you like it or not. No one has to walk right up to someone to be breathing in their face. They just are by default.

I hope they don't Helena but if your vulnerable loved ones get Covid off someone in an enclosed space who is travelling without a mask maybe you'll get it. Or thinking about it, maybe you'll blame the government. It's their fault for not handling it differently. Anyway we will be in lockdown soon enough and then no one has to wear masks. The working bus commuters will suffer without money but never mind. Benefits will still be getting paid so it's all good.

"Oh and to those who have never been on a bus (many here apparently) they are low ceilinged tin boxes with lots of people squashed in and little air circulating."

If that's the case in your area you should be taking it up with the bus company, rather than making life hard for people who can't wear masks. In many areas the number of passengers allowed on each bus has been restricted to allow for social distancing between passengers.

Yes, I know that means that you may have to wait longer for your bus, or leave quite a bit earlier. We are trying to reduce spread of a nasty virus and we have to find ways to work around that, even if that means a good deal of inconvenience.

I was in London yesterday and happened to be sat on a main bus route for over an hour. Dozens of LT buses passed me. Those that had reached their new capacity had 'Bus Full' signs clearly displayed. Every driver and the vast majority of passengers were wearing mask, I was very impressed.

@amicissimma if you saw the last palaver around London buses (and remember the bendy buses) you'll know 'redesigning the buses' isn't an option.

Personally, I drive to work for now so I will not be getting on a bus for some time. No point in adding to the number of people on them.

I'm not suggesting redesigning buses. (I'm not sure what gave you that idea).

I'm suggesting that you ask your local bus company to do what is being done successfully in a lot of places, including London, as StopGo's post, and my own experience, shows.

No I won't be talking to the bus company and asking them what they are doing, or suggesting that they should emulate Singapore. I'll leave that to those that like that sort of thing.

I'm pretty sure they have thought about it and are doing what they can, some better than others. It would just be easier if everyone that can wears a mask. We can't rely on the conscientiousness if the great British public however snd I'm surprised at this'd that think we can.

Although you might be On to something with your mention of Singapore. We are indeed trying to reduce the spread of a nasty virus!
www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-singapore-masks-going-out-law-12643120

They have even tightened up since then on mask type. A bus driver refused to let a passenger wearing a scarf board.
www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/rules-on-definition-and-wearing-of-masks-tightened-under-covid-19-control-order

Completely daft to mandate mask wearing on stepping outside your house

Sorry @amicissimma I see you have made NO mention of Singapore! No idea where I got that from! My apologies.

@MaxinesTaxi

Completely daft to mandate mask wearing on stepping outside your house

Totally bonkers. They do love a good rule there.

I hope they don't Helena but if your vulnerable loved ones get Covid off someone in an enclosed space who is travelling without a mask maybe you'll get it. Or thinking about it, maybe you'll blame the government. It's their fault for not handling it differently

Track and Trace is a shambles.

People who need to self isolate who are on a low income are not being financially supported to do so. Instead they are being blamed for not being able to do so so they can pay their rent and not be evicted. And now they are also being blamed for not having the right tech so they can download an app run by someone who presided over a hack in her previous employment. THIS is what annoys me not someone not wearing a mask on a bus. The very people who they are trying to shift the blame onto have quite likely never been on a ski trip in their lives.

Italy were handing out masks for free. In Germany they have done something REALLY radical and made tests available through GP surgeries.

Instead of questioning why they havent got the whit political will to do these things here ,its people jumping on others (in the above case in Pagham literally) for not wearing a mask.

And the reaction here would have been different had it been the other way around. The posts about the French bus driver and the NHS Track and Trace worker who were just as nastily assaulted by a non mask wearer prove that.

Its wrong either way. Mask or no mask.

Yes, and Japan has vending machines for cooling masks.,

It’s not clear if they give them out for free though.

Oh give it a rest OP. You do you and leave others alone.