Is anyone actually still behind the Prime Minister?

[annabel85]

I don't think he has handled the pandemic as well as he could tbh and i've noticed the tide turning on here recently very much against him. The right wing media are really getting restless with Boris as well and of course the left are sticking the knife in.

I think a lot of people cut him loads of slack because it was an unprecedented situation and then he got really ill himself (I don't think his 'shake hands with the virus' attitude was sensible either) which set the government back in their response. Then he was let down by his main advisor which has eroded confidence in his administration.

How can Boris get a hold of this and the government approach to Covid and get everyone back on side again? 9 months ago he won one of the biggest landslides ever, to huge fanfare. It's a bit of a downfall at the moment, he still has a chance to recover it.

Boris needs to unite the country again.

@JamieLeeCurtains

P.s. Don't you think he looks tired?

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Yep, still behind the PM in my household.

Fine go ahead and scrutinise him, it won't change anything, still a fact that people are not following the rules, therefore here we are in this position

@BabyLlamaZen

I don't love everything they've done but you've only got to read the mumsnet board to see whatever they do they disappoint everybody. I think if people actually listened to them and read between the lines it would be fine. As it is, people are idiots.

*@BabyLlamaZen* "If only people listened to them and read between the lines it would be fine. As it is, people are idiots"

Gavin Williamson addressing parliament in July on the Autumn return to school: ‘We are also ensuring that testing is readily available, so that parents, teachers and students can return with confidence. All staff, pupils and their families will continue to have access to testing if they develop covid-19 symptoms.’ Schools are not even a month into the term and Hancock is rationing tests.

de Pfeffel Johnson pledged a ‘world beating’ testing system would be operational by June. Sept 2020 Dido Harding head of track and trace responds to the Commons Science and Technology Committee that "Plainly we don't have enough testing capacity." Harding says she doesn't believe "anybody was expecting to see the really sizeable increase in demand" for coronavirus tests." REALLY!?!

Sept - Johnson unveils plan for mass testing by the new year under Project Moonshot allowing millions of tests a day a week later Johnson told the Commons Liaison Committee: "I don't recognise the figure that you have just given.

August- Johnson's drive to get people back in the office. Sept - now being told to wfh again.

The problem is @BabyLlamaZen the Government delivers their rhetoric but it's completely unmatched by reality. There is nothing idiotic in asking for honesty and an expectation that policy is delivered. So I will carry on 'carping' about testing as Jacob Rees-Mogg puts it as an effective testing system undeprins our ability to work and schools ability to function properly.

I've listened to them. It's not fine.

absolute fucking joke

Us too Lily193

@Fawnfour

Fine go ahead and scrutinise him, it won't change anything, still a fact that people are not following the rules, therefore here we are in this position

You have no idea whether it will change anything or not. And you simply can't separate people not following the rules from lack of trust in Johnson and his shit performance. We know for a fact, the data is clear, that there was a significant drop in trust following the Cummings fiasco.

No I absolutely do not know if it will make any difference, I'd like to think so.
But why not try? I seem to be in the minority here, but I do think we should all be following the rules, if it doesn't work, then we say, it didn't work, but people are already saying it isn't working, we haven't tried it yet, so how would we know.

Yes absolutely behind Boris.

In general scrutiny of all of our MP’s and public servants should be encouraged not stifled. MP’s in particular understand that their every move is analysed and they will have to defend their position if called out on it. It goes with the territory and is necessary. Everyone in a position of power should be answerable for their part.

BJ doesn’t need to be defended from scrutiny; if he wants support he needs to do a good job. Luck plays a part in his decisions but again that goes with the territory.

Everyone in a position of power should be answerable
completely agree, power tends to corrupt
those in power must always be held to account

@Fawnfour

No I absolutely do not know if it will make any difference, I'd like to think so. But why not try? I seem to be in the minority here, but I do think we should all be following the rules, if it doesn't work, then we say, it didn't work, but people are already saying it isn't working, we haven't tried it yet, so how would we know.

Why not try getting behind a PM who's doing a crap job? Because it's a terrible idea. We need to hold those in power to account, because if we reman supine and bleating, trusting they'll do the best for us, they don't. We've already seen Johnson show an unsettling degree of nepotism.

And it's not the case that we haven't tried it yet either. Johnson's approval ratings were very high in April. He pissed it all away over Cummings. Keeping him on, and getting half the Cabinet to justify his poor behaviour, is not a decision that it will benefit any of us to support.

I’m sure some of his cabinet colleagues are. Perfectly positioned to stab him in the back...

I’m actually more concerned that the current PM and his cabinet seem to think they’re equipped to negotiate a pandemic and brexit at the same time.

I quite like my leaders to have an awareness of their own limitations and a pause in brexit negotiations was on offer. It was foolish to turn that down and I can only presume it was to take advantage of burying it’s less than desirable effects under COVID.

Just listened to parliament on LBC

Johnson was fine in main part, coherent. KS asked very direct questions but the slight sneeriness and bluster that can back in return was frustrating. I did want to hear what his answers were, not bumpf

@SissySpacekAteMyHamster

I regularly watch PM questions, and I've yet to see him actually answer one from anyone other than another (pre-prepped) Tory

I've just watched him respond to questions after his statement in the House and it drives me mad that he doesn't answer the question posed but just repeats a bit of propaganda material. The PM should have the decency to actually answer the questions posed to him by MPs there to represent their constituents. Although I did recently see him agree to work with Labour on addressing pregnant women having to face labour alone - good to see some joined up working.

Behind him? I’m not even sure where he is.

@Sportsnight

Behind him? I’m not even sure where he is.

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Sports 😂 needed some humour on here

@MarshaBradyo

Just listened to parliament on LBC

Johnson was fine in main part, coherent. KS asked very direct questions but the slight sneeriness and bluster that can back in return was frustrating. I did want to hear what his answers were, not bumpf

I agree and would add that he started his reply in a needlessly argumentative manner. That’s probably because of the subject of testing though - lovely though it is to thank the people working in the labs and logistics it doesn’t solve the problem and I take it from that there’s no plan to resolve it either.

I think they are all doing their best, I don't go for this rabid political spitefulness you see so much of, I would supportive of any government of any colour grappling with such a crisis. I don't see how turning everything toxic and personal helps anyone.

I hope the country turn a corner and the infection rate becomes stable, if that happens things will become much easier for everyone.

I don’t think anyone else would have done much better. Yes they would have in certain areas (communication for example!). But worse in other areas too. I don’t think Corbyn would have led a better strategy. And I don’t see what strategy starmer is suggesting apart from ‘mr hindsight’ and ‘captain obvious’.

But why not try? I seem to be in the minority here, but I do think we should all be following the rules, if it doesn't work, then we say, it didn't work, but people are already saying it isn't working, we haven't tried it yet, so how would we know.

You're easily led aren't you? The cabinet have teams of scientists (including behavioural scientists) behind them, they have the means to make informed, evidence based decisions. But they don't, and that's ok with you because we'll just give it a go and hope for the best.

What a sycophantic, hard of thinking response. Your giving it a go is costing people's lives. Would you be so blindly accepting if faced by a victim's relatives?

Please stop being so blindly accepting of whatever the government feeds to you. Any government should work to the highest standards, and be held to account accordingly.

And I don’t see what strategy starmer is suggesting apart from ‘mr hindsight’ and ‘captain obvious’.

He's pushed the government on test and trace from day one. The government promised a world beating system, an app, adequate testing, effective tracing. They've not delivered on any of those things.

I've just tried to get a test for myself and my two kids. No tests, no answer no help no provision unless I have £500+ to spend on private clinics.. so I have to just wait and see if it passes or one of us ends up in a Covid ward.. the people running this country are criminally inept. Murderously criminally inept. I just hope some bright spark takes a class action suit out against the government.