Is anyone actually still behind the Prime Minister?

[annabel85]

I don't think he has handled the pandemic as well as he could tbh and i've noticed the tide turning on here recently very much against him. The right wing media are really getting restless with Boris as well and of course the left are sticking the knife in.

I think a lot of people cut him loads of slack because it was an unprecedented situation and then he got really ill himself (I don't think his 'shake hands with the virus' attitude was sensible either) which set the government back in their response. Then he was let down by his main advisor which has eroded confidence in his administration.

How can Boris get a hold of this and the government approach to Covid and get everyone back on side again? 9 months ago he won one of the biggest landslides ever, to huge fanfare. It's a bit of a downfall at the moment, he still has a chance to recover it.

Boris needs to unite the country again.

@Bassettgirl

I am English and nobody I know has ever been behind Boris being prime minister.

Apart from the massive amount of people who voted for him..?

I am behind the Prime Minister and the Govt. I would be supportive of whichever Govt was in power at such a time. Whoever was in power would mess up some aspects (as have leaders of other countries). Any Govt would be trying their best to get the balance right between protecting the health of its citizens and the health of the economy.

I don't think any British Prime Minister has ever gone through such a difficult period to govern. A global pandemic and the transition period of Brexit. That has got to be the toughest gig without throwing in nearly losing your life to a deadly virus and becoming a father again.

I think it is easy to whinge about things that could have been done better when you aren't at that coalface. The pressure and stress on all of the UK Govts and our scientific advisors to get this right is immense. They all deserve our support.

There are lots of people behind him. Most of them are sharpening knives as we speak.

I never was nor will be behind him or his band of merry pillocks.

@itsabeautifuldayheyhey...this 100%
No sane person would want to be PM right now, you can only get it wrong and I am not a Boris fan at all!

Never was.

And as an ex SNP member, indie supporter I am well and truly done with Nicola Sturgeon as well.

baytreetavern

Apart from the massive amount of people who voted for him..?
The electorate aren't asked to vote for a Prime Minster. Only a few people were involved in choosing the Tory party's leader.

@Itsabeautifuldayheyhey

I am behind the Prime Minister and the Govt. I would be supportive of whichever Govt was in power at such a time. Whoever was in power would mess up some aspects (as have leaders of other countries). Any Govt would be trying their best to get the balance right between protecting the health of its citizens and the health of the economy.

I don't think any British Prime Minister has ever gone through such a difficult period to govern. A global pandemic and the transition period of Brexit. That has got to be the toughest gig without throwing in nearly losing your life to a deadly virus and becoming a father again.

I think it is easy to whinge about things that could have been done better when you aren't at that coalface. The pressure and stress on all of the UK Govts and our scientific advisors to get this right is immense. They all deserve our support.

You say this like he didn't have the option of not being PM during the transition period of Brexit. It was a choice he made to go with Leave in the first place, and pretty clearly one based on what he thought would get him in as PM soonest rather than a genuine belief. It was a choice to fuck around doing everything he could to undermine May, and a choice he made to negotiate the NI provisions in the WA then now to try and get out of them. If he's finding it hard now, it serves him right. He doesn't deserve support for any of this. He deserves condemnation. He made his bed.

Also, do you apply this 'it's easy to whinge' rhetoric to people fucking up in all jobs, or is it only the PM? I'm just wondering, if a doctor ballsed up your operation or a builder did a dangerous job on your extension, would you feel any criticism had to be prefaced with ooh well, it's a tough job and obviously I've never had a go at an appendectomy myself? Or would it be ok, in that scenario, to expect that someone voluntarily putting themselves forward for a job would make a competent go at it?

Let’s be honest, whatever any Conservative Government does they will be trashed on this board

Lazy thinking, can you honestly say you are impressed by Johnson?

Can you name anything he has got right?

Totally agree @OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer

I don't think any British Prime Minister has ever gone through such a difficult period to govern

I don't agree with this statement at all but that's your opinion. Also, he didn't have to back Brexit or become Prime Minister during the transition period (or become a father at the same time) which wasn't exactly a surprise. He also didn't take any precuations against catching Covid, in fact he shook hands with people who had it. So I'll be saving my violins.

@Rosehip10 and @Juniperandrage. He may not be able to unite Scotland, Wales or United Ireland. He also can't unite England. I'm envious that you have a chance of moving further away from this incompetent government. The rest of us are stuck with them unfortunately 🙄

@TheSandman

There are lots of people behind him. Most of them are sharpening knives as we speak.

Snort.

I'm sure whoever replaces him will be equally repulsive, but still, I intend to enjoy it. Got to take our pleasures where we can.

Ontopofthesunset

Unfortunately you can't bluster your way through a pandemic with a slogan.
At the end of one Coronavirus upddate wasn't the Prime Minister heard asking a scientist (not sure which one) whether he'd said it enough, referring to the slogan. That gives me the impression they suggested he use it a lot. Maybe they even came up with it?

Not really but then I think if labour or Lib Dem were in power they wouldnt have done any better!

I don't think any British Prime Minister has ever gone through such a difficult period to govern. A global pandemic and the transition period of Brexit. That has got to be the toughest gig without throwing in nearly losing your life to a deadly virus and becoming a father again

I'd say WW2 tested our PM slightly more than CV.

Johnson also chose to become a father again and he undoubtedly made the difference with Brexit... plus he decided to screw up NI and ensure a no-deal.

But yes CV is a huge global problem and i for one supported him at the beginning and wanted him to get this right but it quickly became apparent he is incompetent.

Who in their right mind supports shaking hands with someone with an unknown respiratory disease that had shut down China and was doing the same to mainland europe?

He is just unsuited to be PM regardless of CV.

Don't mention violins. That's under the superinjunction.

Only Dominic Cummings. With his hand up Bozza's jacket, pulling the puppet strings.

He'll be useful when an economy cheerleader is needed - he can also be quite good at charming people together who might otherwise not cooperate. That could be useful. However, I do think he needs to be more visible and decisive right now.

His personal life is a disgraceful shambles, a national embarrassment which by comparison would even the French voting public, and makes Trump look quite the solid family man - having married all his kids' mothers. I'll put that to one side, though, for the sake of getting the present situation dealt with.

@shesellsseashells99

Not really but then I think if labour or Lib Dem were in power they wouldnt have done any better!

Really? Do you think they would have handed contracts worth millions without tender to their friends with no experience?

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer

Also, do you apply this 'it's easy to whinge' rhetoric to people fucking up in all jobs, or is it only the PM? I'm just wondering, if a doctor ballsed up your operation or a builder did a dangerous job on your extension, would you feel any criticism had to be prefaced with ooh well, it's a tough job and obviously I've never had a go at an appendectomy myself? Or would it be ok, in that scenario, to expect that someone voluntarily putting themselves forward for a job would make a competent go at it?
I don't think comparing the unprecedented issues the PM is dealing with this year can even be compared to those faced by previous PMs. They certainly cannot be compared to routine appendectomies or routine building work.

If Boris had backed Remain in 2016 then maybe history would have been different.
I know Cameron messed up but Boris was the big celebrity noise , he could have swung that vote a bit, but he sided with the ERG instead and went with big slogans and buses.
It's just a theory of mine.. we will never know of course.

@Shouldbedoing

I wouldnt say I was behind him, but I think I have the intelligence to realise that an awful lot of the situation we find ourselves in, isnt exactly his fault!