Are schools the reason for the surge?

[NebularNerd]

Thousands of people mixing daily with no social distancing.

Children pass the virus on, as BJ has said recently (despite previously saying otherwise).

Surely even if other measures are put in place, the numbers will continue to rise?

Are schools behind the surge?

Took me 7 days from symptom to result for my DD2 which makes the whole thing almost pointless. Given her close contacts will have been mixing the entire time she was waiting for test and results - that's 8 days from contact and the infectious period prior to symptoms.

Fortunately, negative.

So, if it wasn't spreading in school before, I suspect it will be now.

Did anyone one else see that the hospital admission rates for women aged 20-40 were increasing rapidly.

Claimed to be because of women more likely to have caring/forward facing jobs.

Though the rise didn’t start when hospitality opened back up in the summer, and care work has never stopped.

Funnily enough it does coincide with schools reopening.

Funnily enough it does coincide with schools reopening
Not necessarily I think many people relaxed once the deaths decreased along with positive cases. I know I did by letting the DC mix with other DC from July all the DC were back in swing by August.
Lots of neighbours have been on mini breaks some holidays abroad.

@MoaningMurlock

Did anyone one else see that the hospital admission rates for women aged 20-40 were increasing rapidly.

Claimed to be because of women more likely to have caring/forward facing jobs.

Though the rise didn’t start when hospitality opened back up in the summer, and care work has never stopped.

Funnily enough it does coincide with schools reopening.

Do you mean England? It takes a while to get to hospital stage I don’t think they’ve been open long enough

I saw some statistics today I will need to try and find them, schools are only secondary to care homes in England for outbreaks linked to a setting. We’ve been back weeks in England, to be fair I want schools open. However to suggest schools aren’t behind any surge is fool hardy and very head in the sand. It also shows that they have no idea what schools are dealing with.

@MoaningMurlock

Did anyone one else see that the hospital admission rates for women aged 20-40 were increasing rapidly.

Claimed to be because of women more likely to have caring/forward facing jobs.

Though the rise didn’t start when hospitality opened back up in the summer, and care work has never stopped.

Funnily enough it does coincide with schools reopening.

It would time about right. The majority of schools are into week 4, some week 5 and a few week 3. More than long enough.

It would time about right. The majority of schools are into week 4, some week 5 and a few week 3. More than long enough

What? Week 2 here

Do you mean in England Itsasecret?

@MarshaBradyo

It would time about right. The majority of schools are into week 4, some week 5 and a few week 3. More than long enough

What? Week 2 here

That’s not where the majority of England had their start of term. Yours really went back as late as the 14th? If you mean the 7th you’re into week 3 of term now. That’s the latest I know of. The majority went back BH week so are in week 4. Some went back August 24th so are week 5.

It would time about right. The majority of schools are into week 4, some week 5 and a few week 3. More than long enough.

So the kids catches it in school, then incuvatesnjt, then passes it on to their parent, who then has to incubate it, and then get ill enough to die.

All in a very short time frame........

Making wild speculations like this is dangerous.

@Timeforanotherusername

It would time about right. The majority of schools are into week 4, some week 5 and a few week 3. More than long enough.

So the kids catches it in school, then incuvatesnjt, then passes it on to their parent, who then has to incubate it, and then get ill enough to die.

All in a very short time frame........

Making wild speculations like this is dangerous.

Not really, it’s dangerous not to think about it, to help keep schools safe and open.

Or we could all pretend it’s ok and schools close. I know my choice. If you want schools to stay open, burying your head in the sand isn’t an option I’m afraid.

The start of week 3 Its! He’s had 11 days

That is two weeks school plus one day. Really not that long.

@Timeforanotherusername

It would time about right. The majority of schools are into week 4, some week 5 and a few week 3. More than long enough.

So the kids catches it in school, then incuvatesnjt, then passes it on to their parent, who then has to incubate it, and then get ill enough to die.

All in a very short time frame........

Making wild speculations like this is dangerous.

Oh and they weren’t talking about deaths, hospital admissions have gone up, that’s a fact.

Its not schools at the moment . Its spread through households mixing indoors, and house parties. That's why group of 6 was brought in.

I do have concerns about universities though. Parties broken up.in student accommodation over the weekend.

If you want schools open and safe, there has to be acceptance that they are driving cases. The statistics speak for themselves. If you want schools open and you two have been the worst for head in the sand posts. Do something about it, lobby the government to do something. Schools will close, with you castrophosising or not about missed education.

I don’t want schools to close, they will if this continues. Mark my words.

its

Yes I know hospital admissions have gone up.

I still think the timeframe is to short to blame schools.

Whilst i do think that will add to the spread, i don't think we can say that yet.

As others have said, it may be because shielding was lifted on 1st August, or it maybe because people ignored the restrictions all through the summer.

I think though we need to be careful about just blaming one thing.

All 4 governments in the UK are stating that the problems in the UK are down to unnecessary social contact.

Yes of course there will be infections elsewhere, but blaming the kids and the schools is not going to help reduce the spread. Not when you are looking in the wrong place (for the moment)

Mark my words

That's me telt

Sorry that did make me laugh

Its what are you on about?

Talking about schools being back that long isn’t correct. It’s been two weeks but you think it’s ok to say up to 5?

Time So naughty ;

Its I’ll do as I wish and watch the figures and make decisions based on that as I have the whole time

It’s a shame they didn’t send all schools back at the beginning of June whilst most other things were still locked down. Then we would have some reliable data as to the effect.

Btw Its I am one of the lowest drivers of cases and abuse by the guidance.

I did write to my MP actually.

Maybe spend some time being more proactive on lobbying the government to keep schools open then? Testing would be a good start. Instead of spending all day following each other on a parenting forum!

easter i agree. It was my thinking in May. And also would have had the 6 week holiday as a circuit break if needed.

I think that would have been better than a September return.

I do not have my head in the sand enough to see that there won't be issues with the schools retunring, I just don't think we really know yet.

I do get annoyed through when people make wild assumptions without really considering it properly.

To be honest I don't know why this is a debate at all. Viruses thrive on people in close contact. Schools/colleges/universities return, there are lots and lots of people in contact with people they wouldn't have seen for a few months .. if there's a virus knocking about of course it's going to spread in these conditions!