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Second wave coming

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humidifierx · 18/09/2020 18:03

Yay.

Second wave coming
OP posts:
kittensarecute · 18/09/2020 20:50

@MadamHoooch

I really do think this is the end of society and of civilization. I am not exaggerating. It is the apocalypse
Are you OK?
MadamHoooch · 18/09/2020 20:50

Of course not how is anyone ok

Derbygerbil · 18/09/2020 20:50

No steep rise in cases for Sweden.

No steep rises where I am in Suffolk either - cases are around 1/4 of Sweden’s levels per 100,000 at the moment - but I’m not naive enough to think we’re done and it’s all over.

Derbygerbil · 18/09/2020 20:54

Maybe antibiotics would eradicate it?

Antibiotics attack bacteria. Unfortunately Covid is a virus.

Derbygerbil · 18/09/2020 20:56

Sorry, ignore my comment about... i should have read earlier posts to see context.

Derbygerbil · 18/09/2020 20:56

above, not about

The80sweregreat · 18/09/2020 20:57

I know covid is a virus. Ebola is bacterial and an outbreak of that worries me more than this does.

Ori82 · 18/09/2020 20:57

I’m going to bed. One thing at a time.

pooiepooie25 · 18/09/2020 20:57

@EwwSprouts

Local primary has closed but it was the teachers not the children infecting each other. The hot spot started with an adult who had a party just after coming back from a holiday abroad.
Of course- it's the fault of the teachers. Didn't you know that the whole pandemic was caused because all the teachers hate kids and couldn't be fucked teacher 9-3 anymore?
Lougle · 18/09/2020 20:58

@FractionalGains

Sorry if it’s a stupid question but why would a bacterial pandemic be worse?
We've already almost exhausted our novel antibiotics - I think there are one or two left that can be wheeled out if all others fail. Bacteria become resistant to antibiotics.

Incidentally, I had to go to the builders' merchant today, and they didn't have a widely available size of wood. The man commented that they normally keep stock of 1000 of that size of wood, but it had literally 'flown off the shelves'. Then, I phoned another company and the man said 'I'd normally say yes, but I'll need to check, because it's like a second wave of panic has set in and everything is going out of stock.' He didn't have it. I went in to a third store, and there was a man taking the wood I wanted (lots there, not a problem) and his wife said 'What's that for then?' and he replied 'This is a really useful wood to have in the shed...'

I reckon that panic buying has started already and we'll be back where we started soon.

Staffy1 · 18/09/2020 20:59

When can we expect the plague of locusts?
Africa has had at least one huge plague of locusts in the last few months.

pooiepooie25 · 18/09/2020 20:59

@notevenat20

Yes , schools are terrifying places to work just now. You are basically just throwing yourselves to the lions

I don't think this is reasonable. Schools are open all over the world and teachers have not been falling like flies.

Are you a teacher? Of course you aren't. You just feel the need to talk shit and dismiss any concerns from those who are in schools and have valid concerns. Do you do the same to NHS staff? To our public services workers? It is it just teachers you hate and feel the need to dismiss?
The80sweregreat · 18/09/2020 21:00

The locasts came back in March in Africa.

HarryLimeFoxtrot · 18/09/2020 21:00

@The80sweregreat
I know covid is a virus. Ebola is bacterial and an outbreak of that worries me more than this does.

You’re wrong. Ebola isn’t bacterial. It’s a virus.

The80sweregreat · 18/09/2020 21:00

I thought Ebola was bacterial?
Anyway, a bacterial infection of any kind scares me more than this.

gje943 · 18/09/2020 21:01

@Derbygerbil

No steep rise in cases for Sweden.

No steep rises where I am in Suffolk either - cases are around 1/4 of Sweden’s levels per 100,000 at the moment - but I’m not naive enough to think we’re done and it’s all over.

That's exactly the point I was making - thanks for agreeing with me.

This is not done because the government has taken the wrong approach. Turning back now would be political suicide, therefore lockdowns will continue even though they're clearly ineffective.

XingMing · 18/09/2020 21:02

We're not too bad here MadameHooch. I don't think the end of civilisation is close and I'd volunteer to have COVID, even though I'm 64, because it would contribute to herd immunity. I am fortunate to be in decent health, just old.

FWIW, I believe Sweden took a sensible approach. I know their death rate per capita is high, but it is largely the old and unhealthy who've died, and while they are always going to be dear to their families and very much missed, at some stage you have to ask whether you are going to crash an entire country to protect people like my DMIL and DM, who are both over 85.

I really don't want to sound callous, and I know it will be read as callous, but if anyone is going to die from COVID, I would rather it was the eldest and weakest.

Dominicgoings · 18/09/2020 21:03

Is it possible for at least one covid thread NOT to be taken over by angry teachers? Been a civil, interesting thread so far. There are a thousand others specific to schools and teachers....

loulouljh · 18/09/2020 21:04

@XingMing: you are talking sense!!

pooiepooie25 · 18/09/2020 21:07

@Dominicgoings

Is it possible for at least one covid thread NOT to be taken over by angry teachers? Been a civil, interesting thread so far. There are a thousand others specific to schools and teachers....
I am an angry teacher because of other people on this thread dismissing valid concerns of teachers. That's why.
Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 18/09/2020 21:09

@Beebityboo

This quote in the article really pissed me off "the British people have done an amazing job - they've brought that peak down by discipline" but that "people find it difficult to keep this up, it's difficult to maintain that discipline for a long time".
He isn't blaming people. He praised them and acknowledged the difficulty people have in maintaining the restrictions for so long.

All our own fault, not at all the responsibility of the absolute clowns in power and certainly nothing to do with the fact that our testing system is in the toilet, that the young were actively encouraged to go out and spend money in restaurants, that schools were sent back with no extra funding and safety measures that will do diddly squat to stave off a virus that is spread by aerosol.
I noticed that many of these queing for tests were young people.

Many young people pictured in newspapers in and outside pubs were not exercising social-distancing and were not complying with maximum numbers/households allowed by rules/laws.

Many young people on beaches in recent weeks not social-distancing and not adhering to rules/laws on maximum numbers of people/households allowed to mix.

Many young people attended illegal raves in recent weeks.

Personally I think Boris Johnson should allocate blame to some people because there are plenty of people who have disregarded rules and many are the young.
There are plenty on MN whose first thought is to look for loopholes or just disregard the rules because they disagree with them.

I think restaurants have generally done well and tried to make their premises as covid-secure as possible.

SistemaAddict · 18/09/2020 21:09

@Dominicgoings because I keep a well stocked pantry and have just emptied the last of the 16kg sack I bought previously into my flour tubs. I've got enough for about 6 loaves and 6 pizzas. Talk of lockdown and shortages prompted me to put in an order. I buy 16kg in a wholesale sack. I'm not clearing the local shelves of bread flour. I'm buying what my family need in a timely manner because we make our own bread and pizza bases every few days.

GarlicSoup · 18/09/2020 21:10

@Beebityboo

I just really hope they do away with the fines for schools soon. I was really scared to send them back at the beginning of term and now I am completely terrified (have a disability that makes me more vulnerable). It is completely disgusting that disabled and vulnerable families are having to choose between deregistering or paying fines. I just want to get my whole family through this winter unscathed. No one should be forced to send their children into school during a pandemic.
^ Completely agree the current situation is sheer madness
LindaEllen · 18/09/2020 21:10

I'm so scared. Not because of covid because I've had it, but the isolation harmed my mental health in a very dangerous way this time, and I've ALMOST been able to get myself back on track, and now we have a local lockdown starting on Tuesday and I'm gutted.

It's hard enough to keep myself on track as it is, without having all this to contend with, too.

randomer · 18/09/2020 21:11

O.OO3 % chance.

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