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A second lockdown - is it coming?

155 replies

Mamawell · 17/09/2020 10:53

I very, very naively posted on here back in March saying a lockdown wasn't happening blah, blah...

Oh how wrong I was. Mumsnet was all over it.

What's your thoughts this time future predictors?

YABU - No Second Lockdown
YANBU - SECOND lockdown is aaaa' coming

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beguilingeyes · 17/09/2020 11:22

Boris said that he didn't want one so he'll probably announce it on Friday. I think they're desperately trying to avoid it, but it wouldn't surprise me now. It's been such a shitshow.

And if it happens again it'll be much colder so not so much opportunity to be outside.

surroundedbyostriches · 17/09/2020 11:23

my area has been in lockdown for around 6 weeks now I think, and cases rising not lowering. People are just not following the rules.

blueskys72 · 17/09/2020 11:23

A colleague sent me a WhatsApp yesterday saying we were going back into full lockdown, link attached etc.

The link did not take me to anything lockdown-related.

The link was a naked man with an extremely large schlong GrinGrin

Venicelover · 17/09/2020 11:24

I hope not, but when schools went back an upward surge was always on the cards. I cannot believe the increased demand for testing wasn't expected and planned for.

ShellsAndSunrises · 17/09/2020 11:31

I'm really, really torn on what the best thing to do is now.

It seems the places that locked down early and hard are doing okay - New Zealand being a great example. The places that locked down later are struggling regardless of how hard a lockdown it was, like Italy. And Sweden keep being touted as a country that didn't lock down and therefore seems to be coping better with a second wave, but at massive cost.

I don't think the economists are wrong that a second lockdown would quite possibly be devastating financially. I think it'd also have a big effect on people overall. There's an endless amount of stories about suicides, self-harm and stillbirths going up during lockdown. Mental health massively declined, alcohol consumption went up.

With all that considered, I don't think there'd be a lot of compliance with a second lockdown.

The public will have no choice to comply though if everything is shut and schools are shut

That seems naive to me. People will meet in parks, have people over to their house. They were before the end of the first lockdown, before anything had reopened. I have an acquaintance who visited anyone and everyone.

Sure, the people inside would be doing okay, they likely wouldn't get it. But they'd probably get it again whenever they did stop lockdown again... so it brings you back to some sort of voluntary lockdown... but that's a hugely criticised policy for vulnerable people. Surely it'd be the same for everyone else, unless uptake was massive. It'd create a two-tiered society... and there'd have to be some drastic and unlikely law changes to stop employers from getting rid of people that they saw as "choosing" to lockdown and hiring people still happy to work.

YukoandHiro · 17/09/2020 11:31

Agree with @TinyMetalBirds - if there was another full lockdown (even a short one) compliance rates would be low. There was a good piece on this on the Spectator website today

frozendaisy · 17/09/2020 11:35

I think they are prepping the population for one. Whether it happens, I think they are hoping threats of one will curb enough behaviour to avoid one.

But today, more than before, I think we are being drip fed the possibility.

So, maybe.

BiddyPop · 17/09/2020 11:36

My DSis posted on the family group this morning that I am already in lockdown (different part of the country) - the Govt is likely to put in place stronger measures in our area tomorrow, but haven't done it yet.

But I think that we are likely to see stronger measures, in this area tomorrow, and the rest of the country is likely to have stronger measures over the course of the autumn.

But I think the Govt has completely messed up the communications in recent weeks and lost the people. So there will be far less compliance than there had been initially.

Lockdownseperation · 17/09/2020 11:38

I knew the first lockdown was coming. I don’t think a second one is coming like the first but I imagine there could be a situation where we are back to work from home if possible and restrictions like we see in the local lockdowns of non two households mixing and restaurants and pubs closing at 10.

PopsicleHustler · 17/09/2020 11:38

@YukoandHiro really wish the wry best for you and your new baby.

What have the hospital said in regards.to your husband being with you?

PopsicleHustler · 17/09/2020 11:39

The very best , that should have said. sorry.

I am also due in january and really want this all to die down. but I think we are in it for the long haul
. A year plus, I would say.

PhilCornwall1 · 17/09/2020 11:40

Nobody here knows at all.

If Johnson came on TV and said there absolutely will not be another national lockdown, who would believe him?

Worriedmum999 · 17/09/2020 11:40

Yes definitely there will be one. I said this last week but was poo pood. I reckon we will have a short, sharp lockdown before furlough ends which wouldn’t have such a huge impact on the economy as the long one we would be forced to have when we have thousands of people dying every day by half term.

PhilCornwall1 · 17/09/2020 11:44

@Worriedmum999

Yes definitely there will be one. I said this last week but was poo pood. I reckon we will have a short, sharp lockdown before furlough ends which wouldn’t have such a huge impact on the economy as the long one we would be forced to have when we have thousands of people dying every day by half term.
Regardless of a second lockdown, when furlough ends, redundancies are going to rocket.
YukoandHiro · 17/09/2020 11:47

@PopsicleHustler thank you. I'm being induced (have a date already booked) and they've said they're relaxing restrictions now so he can stay on the ward from 10-8 each day and obviously will be with me during active labour from 4cm too. So with any luck he will be with me through the induction to birth, and full days after that.
My first was on NICU and it was all a bit of a nightmare so really hoping for an easier ride this time...

YukoandHiro · 17/09/2020 11:49

@PopsicleHustler I agree it's a long haul. It's been a loooong pregnancy with not a huge amount of midwife support despite me being high risk. Also feel like my mat leave will be long and boring with no groups to go to etc. Such weird times.

How are you feeling? Good luck for Jan!

Bigkingdom · 17/09/2020 11:51

No there won’t. Therefore they should let us vulnerable people decide if we want to risk our children bringing home this virus! I could do without being seriously ill or worse!

Mamawell · 17/09/2020 11:53

@YukoandHiro

Just this morning the gov's medical advisors told the cabinet that they want a two week national lockdown to halt the spread. (heard this on that today programme)

So yes, it's coming.

I'm due a bloody baby in 3 weeks. Really hoped this would all be taking a backseat by now!

Really? Where was this?
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PhilCornwall1 · 17/09/2020 11:55
  • Just this morning the gov's medical advisors told the cabinet that they want a two week national lockdown to halt the spread. (heard this on that today programme)

So yes, it's coming.

I'm due a bloody baby in 3 weeks. Really hoped this would all be taking a backseat by now!*

Hasn't that been followed up as incorrect in the press now?

Mamawell · 17/09/2020 11:57

Out of interest? Does anyone think we should just not bother with isolating or lockdowns, unless you have actually full blown Coronovirus symptoms?

Let it run its course and see what happens?

Should we leave it up to the individual to stay home if they want to avoid it?

(Not my thoughts - just asking for opinions)

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Redcups64 · 17/09/2020 11:57

I knew the first was coming, knew kids would be off until September even though no one believed me.

Don’t think there would be a second on the basis the country can’t afford it. Local lockdowns will happen though, but not national I think.

Mamawell · 17/09/2020 11:57

@blueskys72

A colleague sent me a WhatsApp yesterday saying we were going back into full lockdown, link attached etc.

The link did not take me to anything lockdown-related.

The link was a naked man with an extremely large schlong GrinGrin

🤣
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Redcups64 · 17/09/2020 11:58

No because the system will be abused if people can decide for themselves.

ShellsAndSunrises · 17/09/2020 11:59

I thought the two-week national lockdown idea had been misreported, too.

I haven't read the SAGE reports in a month or so but certainly then, they felt that there was no benefit to a short lockdown, and that restrictions would need to be adjusted on a more long-term basis to make any difference.

Melbourne certainly seems to suggest that re-entering lockdown isn't that effective, they've been under a pretty harsh one for a while.

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