Why do they do this

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N/C on this.

Chat with neighbour . On Sunday she went out for the day with 9 girlfriends. They car shared in 2 cars. All had a really good day she said. So much fun she said. My ds is at school with one of their kids same class bubble. Why do people do that? Cases in our area are going up. Local high school affected. I know it's none of my business but .

Cases going up isn't a bad thing. Deaths and hospital rates are still really low which is what is important. We want this to spread throughout the population, just not at the inte sity it was in March. The NHS is not overwhelmed right now

Look at percentage of total tests that are positive each day, its something ridiculously low.

We're being told it's ok for kids to be in bubbles of 30 and 150+ for older children and university students (adults). Sounds like they used their common sense and formed their own bubble.

Lazy puppy, are you saying the government's plan is herd immunity? They deny that it is.

Sounds like they used their common sense and formed their own bubble.

But that's not how the bubbles work. You can't just pick and choose a different bubble each** time you want to hang out with different friends. Worried about my ds.

Sounds like they are enjoying themselves, good for them.

I really couldn't get het up over this anymore.

You talk about kids in schools. They are often in bubbles of 30+ or much more. Some are in yeargroup bubbles and there are even cases where the whole school is a bubble. Mostly little or no social distancing possible so they just mix normally.

So 9 people mixing and even car sharing really seems like a non-issue to me.

I completely understand OP.

Sound lovely, I’m jealous I would love a girls day out.

I think you need to chill out, people can sit in crowded bars or on public transport for hours on end next to strangers, so is that really any different?

The virus isn’t going anywhere, it’s not as deadly as initially thought, we need to get on with life now.

Sounds like they used their common sense and formed their own bubble.

People have no bloody idea about what bubbles are supposed to mean.

We want this to spread throughout the population,

Why do we want it to spread?

There’s been confirmed reinfections so we don’t want it to spread through the community until we understand whether it’s likely people will become immune to it or not.

I can understand why your friend would do this and I’ve recently broken the rules to do something similar. I’m not worried about myself particularly but I felt very guilty for the sacrifices others are making and it was a selfish thing to do. I did enjoy the day but I’ll be very careful from now on as cases are rising.

I don’t know why people keep justifying doing whatever they want because schools are open. Schools are a priority. Do we have to shut everything again before anyone makes any concessions at all??

@ChaChaCha2012 i have no clue what the government are doing.

Everytime you catch an infection like covid, your body produced t cells to help you fight it the next time. Our immune systems have to able to deal with this. Covid isn't going anywhere, and honestly there are plenty of things i'd be far more worried about catching.

Of course there is reinfection, its not the same as chicken pox.

"There’s been confirmed reinfections"

Yes, but they weren't unwell. Which shows that their immune systems fought it off the second time.

@amicissimma

"There’s been confirmed reinfections"

Yes, but they weren't unwell. Which shows that their immune systems fought it off the second time.

But if it's constantly reinfected it never goes away and it does then infect people who have managed to avoid it so far.

As for deaths being low, it was 30 today after many days of single figures?

Seems You’re either in one camp or the other OP. Plenty people don’t care anymore and doing as they please, justifying it with the mindset that they “need to get on with their lives” and a sense of “I know better than the science”.

It’s unfortunate that it is those who follow the rules who suffer for the selfishness of others.

Very frustrating.

Because they're pea brains who have no grasp of science or social responsibility.

The thing is though, don't vaccines work in the same way as being infected with a virus? Vaccines are used to gain herd immunity, or at least to slow transmission, because once your body has antibodies to a disease you don't spread it yourself which slows it down. So if having antibodies didn't work to stop Covid spreading, then a vaccine wouldn't work anyway? I may be talking bollocks here, but even without herd immunity, the more people that get Covid and build up antibodies, the slower the transmission rate will be? When a virus is 'novel' ie humans have never encountered it before this is when it can be most infectious because there is literally no immunity to it in the population? Which is why I wonder about countries like NZ where they don't want anyone to get it.

Am I talking shit here?!

And so many parents on here already having issues with their children being sent home because their are symptomatic children at school...this is why.

@Tavannach

Because they're pea brains who have no grasp of science or social responsibility.

You hit the nail right on the head.

There are two camps : Don't care if I get it or pass it on to someone who will die of it because 'I/my kids will be fine and I want to enjoy MY life and sod everyone else.

Or

I stick to the rules because I have a sense of social responsibility to my fellow man.

@Lazypuppy

Cases going up isn't a bad thing. Deaths and hospital rates are still really low which is what is important. We want this to spread throughout the population, just not at the inte sity it was in March. The NHS is not overwhelmed right now

Look at percentage of total tests that are positive each day, its something ridiculously low.

But it doesn't make you immune and there are long lasting problems afterwards.

I can't believe so many people think like this.

@SoManyActivities, there's lots of articles online which explain why using chimpanzee adenovirus hopefully will work in stopping the majority of the population from contracting Covid to the point were they are very unwell. It's based on what we know happens in Elboa. We don't use smallpox in that vaccine, we use a related virus. So we can vaccinate against diseases that we don't become immune to.

I'm unsure about this example. They could have all legitimately spent the equivalent time in the pub. Ideally we should all be cutting down on contact with others, but I can see why people are getting fed up.

[quote Lazypuppy]@ChaChaCha2012 i have no clue what the government are doing.

Everytime you catch an infection like covid, your body produced t cells to help you fight it the next time. Our immune systems have to able to deal with this. Covid isn't going anywhere, and honestly there are plenty of things i'd be far more worried about catching.

Of course there is reinfection, its not the same as chicken pox.[/quote]
And what about those with compromised immune systems that WONT be developing a resistance in this brave new herd immunity world. ? Just sod them because you want a day out with lots of mates ?

@Lazypuppy

Cases going up isn't a bad thing. Deaths and hospital rates are still really low which is what is important. We want this to spread throughout the population, just not at the inte sity it was in March. The NHS is not overwhelmed right now

Look at percentage of total tests that are positive each day, its something ridiculously low.

It is a very bad thing if you love your grandparents/parents and don't want to be back in lockdown for Christmas.

@Tavannach

Because they're pea brains who have no grasp of science or social responsibility.

SO MUCH THIS.

And will be the most vociferous complainants about being put into lockdown and the schools closing again.