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Isn't it glaringly obvious that the biggest risk with reopening schools is to the parents?

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ScammedOrWhat · 29/08/2020 03:21

I'm astounded and angry that the government's messaging around schools reopening has been deliberately spun to avoid mentioning that the biggest risk is surely that kids are going to spread it to their parents.

Chris Whitty's statement avoided saying this, but if you read between the lines it is clear. He DID NOT say reopening schools was "safe" as reported by the media. He said that the risk to children's health from catching Coronavirus at school was outweighed by the bigger risks to their wellbeing in not going to school.

The further reports today that children are at low risk from dying or becoming seriously ill also support that. But what they're NOT saying is that there is absolutely nothing to say children won't carry the virus home.

Children's parents and grandparents are at considerably increased risk once schools reopen.

I'm furious with the government for not being upfront about this. The messaging should be: - yes children need to go back to school, but parents need to be aware that they are more likely to be exposed and dial back their social mixing accordingly.

Children should be taught vigilance and good social distancing and hygiene principles. They should be taught what symptoms to look out for in themselves and their friends, and to report them immediately for rapid testing.

They could have spent the summer pushing these messages out while investing in santization equipment- extra sinks outside, hand santitizer stations, free mask provision etc for schools. So the message should be - your child is probably safe from getting ill but you the parents are not.

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MarshaBradyo · 30/08/2020 17:26

Everyone needs to not turn up when ill, and get a test. Students and teachers alike.

There’s another thread talking about the entrenched views on turning up to teach no matter what. HTs need to communicate clearly, in writing to everyone, this cannot happens.

Parents need to be as vigilant too.

MarshaBradyo · 30/08/2020 17:27

Happen.

Other than that I agree with Quartz. We need to move forward cautiously and open school to everyone, whilst keeping other areas lower.

IloveJKRowling · 30/08/2020 17:57

I agree, we should be opening up cautiously, prioritising things like schools.

But we're not, everything's opening up pretty much as before with extra social distancing 'where possible' (which often means not consistently or at all). All kids clubs opening at the same time as schools - it's just madness. (I'm not talking about childcare here - I'm talking about clubs away from the school so lots of kids not in same schools mixing).

latticechaos · 30/08/2020 18:30

@Quartz2208

I don’t think it’s just as straight forward as people just care about themselves

We simply cannot stay in a state of rigid fear of a virus that for the vast majority is something they will get over. We have to move forward but with caution and care

Sending back to school isn’t a risk to the majority of parents it’s about being sensible with the idea that we could be more exposed. Think through what we do

I'm not in a 'state of rigid fear' I am doing plenty including work voluntarily (I go in when I can WFH if I want).

But social distancing is what limits spread and schools are the ONLY place where SD is not in place - except where wallies people make their own choices.

The lack of SD in secondary schools (note secondary not primary) is just ridiculous to me, and will clearly drive transmission.

I am not in a state of fear but I don't want long covid for either me or my older children. Many kids now showing longer-lasting symptoms in the USA. Happy for other families to test this stuff out if they want to!

NotAKaren · 30/08/2020 18:33

Agreed OP. It is clear that schools opening will increase contacts and therefore risks greater spread in the home and community. This is what infuriates me about the governments 'back to work' campaign. It would make sense that those who can WFH continue to do so because parents through their DC will now have an increased risk of contracting and spreading the virus to work colleagues and the community. While I agree that the risk of death or serious illness to most is low, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how the spread will increase if we are not all careful with social contacts when schools open.

Molofololo · 30/08/2020 19:45

Latticechaos what long term symptoms are showing in kids in USA and what ages? This is something that worries me but I haven’t heard any reports of this

MarshaBradyo · 30/08/2020 19:47

Lattice are you going to keep home schooling?

latticechaos · 30/08/2020 19:54

@Molofololo

Latticechaos what long term symptoms are showing in kids in USA and what ages? This is something that worries me but I haven’t heard any reports of this
Hi @Molofololo, just longer lasting covid, not many very serious things. But as with adults, not everyone gets it totally symptom free or mild. See for example: t.co/wgAkkncBlo" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.wsj.com/articles/as-child-covid-cases-rise-doctors-watch-for-potential-long-term-effects-11598289636?redirect=amp#click=t.co/wgAkkncBlo

My feeling based on what I know just now is - it isn't terrifying but neither is it nothing. I am finding the tussle between 'stay at home' and 'get back to normal' draining. I just want to understand it more! I think we will know a lot more by spring.

latticechaos · 30/08/2020 19:57

@MarshaBradyo

Lattice are you going to keep home schooling?
I am undecided. I did send one in before summer but there was distancing.

I am very lucky mine seem ok with either, genuinely.

Have a chat with the head next week.

locked2020 · 30/08/2020 20:51

@NotAKaren

Agreed OP. It is clear that schools opening will increase contacts and therefore risks greater spread in the home and community. This is what infuriates me about the governments 'back to work' campaign. It would make sense that those who can WFH continue to do so because parents through their DC will now have an increased risk of contracting and spreading the virus to work colleagues and the community. While I agree that the risk of death or serious illness to most is low, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how the spread will increase if we are not all careful with social contacts when schools open.
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Molofololo · 30/08/2020 21:32

Thanks lattice, I am also worried and watching for any long term impact. There were reports of a spike in diabetes amoungst children which is thought related

Keepdistance · 30/08/2020 21:44

T1 diabetes is a risk after hand foot and mouth too.
Covid does cause thyroiditis (in adults at least).
I wouldnt be surprised if it worsens adult and chupild asthma as it increases inflammation.

notevenat20 · 30/08/2020 22:07

I see opening universities as more like the Cheltenham races debacle than the care home debacle...:)

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