WHO expect pandemic to be over in 2 years

[mummabear1967]

www.itv.com/news/2020-08-21/world-health-organization-chief-hopes-coronavirus-pandemic-will-be-over-in-two-years

Even if this pandemic does run into 2022, we won’t be stuck with restrictions until then, right? We will be back to normality to some extent? Not sure I could deal with another two years of this crap.

I cannot and will not accept social distancing for much longer, it has destroyed my life and taken away everything that brings me pleasure. I'm not living like this for two years

My grandmother lived through two world wars so you can enjoy your freedom, she suffered bombings, rations, family deaths, now curable illnesses, no vaccinations, Spanish flu, Etc.

Yet you can’t manage to stay 2 meters from other people? You are the reason this will take longer to go away.

@Sakura7

Generations before us have had to endure far worse hardships than social distancing. The self entitlement of some is incredible, get a fucking grip.

Great post meditrina - it should be blindingly obvious why letting the virus run rampant would be disastrous.

The virus has 'run rampant'. One day, you might come to understand that the restrictions did nothing to stop the virus doing what it was always going to do. Kill the weakest. It's done that.

So yes, we are missing out on loads. But that’s not due to the SD measures. It’s due to there being a highly infectious novel virus at large.

But then other scientists believe Covid will be just one ongoing wave
I'm in British Columbia and we seem to already be at the start of a second wave.

New cases were down to single digits per day after the curve was initially flattened, but we're up to around 80 per day after bars and restaurants reopened and the second wave looks set to be bigger than the first.

@Touca

But then other scientists believe Covid will be just one ongoing wave I'm in British Columbia and we seem to already be at the start of a second wave.

New cases were down to single digits per day after the curve was initially flattened, but we're up to around 80 per day after bars and restaurants reopened and the second wave looks set to be bigger than the first.

I don’t think that’s a second wave per se is if. It’s a spike of the first wave.

In the future children will get the virus and gain resistance without being ill. Their resistance will be boostered throughout their lives, and then as middle aged people it will be less dangerous for them.Some will be vulnerable, just as some are to the flu. Vaccines are vital for polio etc, because children often die if infected, but Covid is different.

Umm I think someone told them that the “young people are just sooo irresponsible line” wasn’t a working since expecting young people to put their lives in hold indefinitely for a virus which doesn’t impact much on them personally is actually unrealistic so he has gone for a time limit..there is no logic to it, Spanish flu was a flu virus different in nature and our response very different, everyone didn’t hide at home doing zoom calls and getting amazon deliveries in 1918!!

Realistically this pandemic will run for a lot longer but take a very different shake to previous ones due to differences in technology, attitudes to dying and a host of other things. Sounded nothing more than a meaningless sound bit to me!

'But honestly if the virus was uncontrolled do people really think folk would be choosing to gather at festivals etc when there were hundreds of thousands of people being struck down by the virus daily and doubling every few days?'

Erm, yes?

Young people have little sense of their own mortality.
And I'm nearly 50 and I would go.

Different people have different lives and personalities.

What is aok for some is intolerable for others.

@BluebellsGreenbells

I cannot and will not accept social distancing for much longer, it has destroyed my life and taken away everything that brings me pleasure. I'm not living like this for two years

My grandmother lived through two world wars so you can enjoy your freedom, she suffered bombings, rations, family deaths, now curable illnesses, no vaccinations, Spanish flu, Etc.

Yet you can’t manage to stay 2 meters from other people? You are the reason this will take longer to go away.

Excuse me, I am abiding by the rules (unlike most people in my town) but that doesn't mean I have to like it or that I am not against it. Don't be so nasty.

And if you're young and healthy it's not serious.

About 50% of people are asymptomatic. Don't even notice they've got it.

Bluebells , whilst the methodology is criticised today, the experiments of Harlow demonstrated the importance of human contact. If you don't need it, fair enough, but some are affected strongly. Consider in particular those without a partner or children at home. People with vulnerabilities couldn't sometimes interact with their own families.

www.varsity.co.uk/science/6398

@NiceGerbil

'But honestly if the virus was uncontrolled do people really think folk would be choosing to gather at festivals etc when there were hundreds of thousands of people being struck down by the virus daily and doubling every few days?'

Erm, yes?

Young people have little sense of their own mortality.
And I'm nearly 50 and I would go.

Different people have different lives and personalities.

What is aok for some is intolerable for others.

I’m sorry but I think you’re deluded if you think that with several hundred thousand infections a day in the community and rising most people would just carry on as normal. My OH works in hospitality and the industry was almost dead on its arse even when BoJo was just telling us to wash our hands and sing happy birthday. People were not going out and not socialising. And this was when numbers were way lower than they’d have been in the event if there having been no suppression measures being invoked!

@BluebellsGreenbells

I cannot and will not accept social distancing for much longer, it has destroyed my life and taken away everything that brings me pleasure. I'm not living like this for two years

My grandmother lived through two world wars so you can enjoy your freedom, she suffered bombings, rations, family deaths, now curable illnesses, no vaccinations, Spanish flu, Etc.

Yet you can’t manage to stay 2 meters from other people? You are the reason this will take longer to go away.

Standing six feet from people has done nothing. You think it has. That's fine. I think you're completely wrong but it's your opinion. Your opinion doesn't mean you have the right to accuse people of prolonging anything. The fact you think your opinion counts more than someone elses, while you use world wars fought partly so people could have free opinions, to bolster your argument is horrifying.

The virus has 'run rampant'. One day, you might come to understand that the restrictions did nothing to stop the virus doing what it was always going to do. Kill the weakest. It's done that.

Only a small percentage of the population has had it yet. I'm sure the restrictions made a difference. There are still plenty of vulnerable who are shielding and need protecting.

@BluebellsGreenbells

I cannot and will not accept social distancing for much longer, it has destroyed my life and taken away everything that brings me pleasure. I'm not living like this for two years

My grandmother lived through two world wars so you can enjoy your freedom, she suffered bombings, rations, family deaths, now curable illnesses, no vaccinations, Spanish flu, Etc.

Yet you can’t manage to stay 2 meters from other people? You are the reason this will take longer to go away.

Bluebells didn't say she doesn't manage to stay 2 m apart from others, just that she is finding it very difficult. We're all different. There's no point in comparing one situation to another.

Raspberry the illegal raves show that people really are prepared to take that 'risk'.

With risk in quotes because for most people this is a minor illness. 50% of people don't even realise they've had it.

Hi
Just wondering what other cleaners have in the way of PPE or how long they take to clean a 8 bed house with a swimming pool and a hot tub.

@NiceGerbil

And if you're young and healthy it's not serious.

About 50% of people are asymptomatic. Don't even notice they've got it.

Keep hearing things like this, but how does anyone really know that that many people are asymptomatic? Are there really that many people getting tested when they are symptom free (and if so, why?) or is it just a wild guess?

Sorry, I meant kittensarecute, not 'bluebells' who merely quoted her.

There was a Swedish study of hospital staff that gave that figure.

@NiceGerbil

And if you're young and healthy it's not serious.

About 50% of people are asymptomatic. Don't even notice they've got it.

You're right. 80% suffer little or no symptoms. Under 50s are more likely to die of accidental death. Under 15s are more likely to be struck and killed by lightning. Everyone is more likely to die in a car accident driving to the test centre to be tested for the virus.

Social distancing does nothing. Do you catch Influenza every year? How many times have you caught Influenza? Covid 19 has very sadly mainly shortened the lives of people who were the weakest in our society. It's done its worst. It won't get stronger. It will get weaker. The people catching it now are able to shrug it off with very few symptoms. The virus is doing nothing very unusual. There will be no second spike. If you were frightened by the media, have you not seen the media recently? Four times as many are dying of dementia than Covid. Did you believe the media then but not now?

Aside from a lot of incorrect claims in your comment, people should be aware of the possible long term complications of CoVid in previously fit and healthy people. www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/08/long-haulers-covid-19-recognition-support-groups-symptoms/615382/

@Shadeelane

I'm guessing he/she quoted the wrong post

I was thinking the same thing

@Sakura7

Generations before us have had to endure far worse hardships than social distancing. The self entitlement of some is incredible, get a fucking grip.

Great post meditrina - it should be blindingly obvious why letting the virus run rampant would be disastrous.

This! We're not special, our problems are no worse than others have had to live through. In fact, we live with such privilege when you think of the world's wrongs and how other continents are coping. It's a global pandemic, the likes of which our generation have never lived through but it's not the first, and likely not the last. It's taking a terrible toll on mental health and the economy but if I have to wear a face mask and social distance for the next couple of years then I can live with that for the greater good, no matter how much my mental health is suffering.

@Staffy1

The virus has 'run rampant'. One day, you might come to understand that the restrictions did nothing to stop the virus doing what it was always going to do. Kill the weakest. It's done that.

Only a small percentage of the population has had it yet. I'm sure the restrictions made a difference. There are still plenty of vulnerable who are shielding and need protecting.

How do you know only a small percentage of the population has had it? To know that, everyone would have to be tested. I suspect you will eventually be surprised how many people have had it. And you're sure the restrictions helped. They didn't help the 10,000+ elderly dead in care homes, the 10,000+ dead from lack of medical care or the 6,000+ dead who were suddenly ill and died, too afraid to go to A&E in case they caught the virus. That's without counting the ongoing extra suicides the restrictions caused. Or the extra domestic abuse of women and violence against children.Then there's the murders. On and on it goes.