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Did no one know gatherings at home were limited to 2 households?

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Grottyfeet · 01/08/2020 20:13

So the only permitted Eid celebrations were having one brother and his family round, or one set of GPs, unless you all live together, in which case there's no change anyway?

I haven't had anyone in my house because the weather here has been lovely and we've stuck to outdoor gatherings, where up to six are allowed, but I have been vaguely aware it was only two households allowed to meet indoors. Even in the pub you're only supposed to meet up with one other household.

It does seem to have been a shocking failure of communication though.

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CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 01/08/2020 20:24

I think after Cummings a lot of people gave up

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Grottyfeet · 01/08/2020 20:37

Quite, so of this this situation has come about because of large gatherings of households at home, it's still down to the government.and their excuses and communication strategy.

I'm appalled at how "certain communities" are being scapegoats for this.

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cologne4711 · 01/08/2020 20:39

Of course people knew but the rules don't apply to them. One of my son's athletics group had a sleepover with about 6 13 year old girls. Clearly not from 2 households.

And no, Cummings isn't an excuse to deliberately flout the rules.

happypotamus · 01/08/2020 20:40

I didn't until I googled it on Thursday to see if my parents' plan was breaking the rules or not. It wasn't because we were all outside, but then there was a thunderstorm and we went inside to finish eating which was breaking the rules

Tilly28 · 01/08/2020 20:40

This!! Exactly this!!! Iv seen so many pictures of groups of young adults meeting up and not social distancing!

Twinkletwinklechocbar · 01/08/2020 20:43

Yes I did but I don't think hardly anyone is taking any notice anymore.

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Grottyfeet · 01/08/2020 20:44

Up to six young adults in the park is OK, with social distancing.

If your gathering was at home @happypotamus it broke the rules whether it was indoors or out, but would have been OK in a park (depending on numbers)

No wonder people are confused, although yes, I suspect some of the "confusion" is deliberate misinterpretation.

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Littlerainbowmouse · 01/08/2020 20:48

I'm not throwing this out there to be awful as I think large gatherings can be a real problem.

However legally you are allowed to meet in groups of up to 30.

Groups of 6 is just guidance but can't be enforced.

Did no one know gatherings at home were limited to 2 households?
Blueeyedpixie · 01/08/2020 20:49

Barely anyone has been following the rules. The teachers and teaching assistants at my DS’s primary school had an indoor shindig last night and it was all over Facebook. (I’m obviously friends with one them)

Lots of photos of them all hugging. Sad balls to it. Nobody cares anymore.

SandieCheeks · 01/08/2020 20:50

Don't think anyone really knows the rules anymore...

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Grottyfeet · 01/08/2020 20:50

Yes sorry, I forgot up to 30 people in a park is now OK, so those young people aren't wrong, but not at home?

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Iwantacookie · 01/08/2020 20:51

Havent got a clue what the rules are.
I social distance and wear a mask. Not much else I can do

SpeedofaSloth · 01/08/2020 20:53

Yes, I knew and we are abiding by it.

GreekOddess · 01/08/2020 20:54

We haven't seen anyone so I know that we haven't broken the rules. I had mistakenly thought you were allowed to mix with 6 other households inside or unlimited outside. The rules are constantly changing and it's impossible to keep up!

Littlerainbowmouse · 01/08/2020 20:57

I've no idea about indoors, the police guidance seems to look as though up to 30 indoors is also ok as it doesn't specifically say outdoors only.

I suppose this was to start up weddings, smaller shops, pubs etc but they can't keep breaking it down - hence the government guidelines still being for much smaller groups.

Stuckforthefourthtime · 01/08/2020 20:57

I think after Cummings a lot of people gave up

I think after Cummings a lot of people grabbed gleefully with both hands at an excuse to give up. He was an idiot, but that doesn't give us all a get out of jail free card.

And no the guidance is NOT up to 30 people, it's up to 6 people, outdoors. More than 30 is specially illegal Vs guidance - this is supposed to.be allowing for weddings and giving them a tool to prosecute people organising concerts etc, not everyone to have a 30 person birthday party. www.gov.uk/guidance/meeting-people-from-outside-your-household-from-4-july

With numbers spiking up around the world and in areas of the UK I think we all (me included) need to be more careful again.

EvilPea · 01/08/2020 21:01

Haven’t a clue what the fucking rules are anymore.
Or “guidance” or what the law is.
Me and my family are being as sensible as we can whilst still trying to do stuff. We aren’t going out to eat, and any mixing is done outside.

Youngest went to a friends (garden) today as I thought it was ok for small outside mixing. Obviously I got that one wrong.

Cummings did change things for me. I followed the rules to the letter, now I don’t even know what the rules are, but just try to be sensible. Go out to shops when completely necessary, wear masks, social distance and only do outdoors “fun stuff” with no touch points (we’ve been to two places in three weeks).

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Grottyfeet · 01/08/2020 21:02

You can see why people might be confused though? I've been a stickler for the rules but I'm not at all sure what they are now.

So 30 people at a wedding is (was?) Ok but the same 30 people at the ILs the night before is not OK?

England Athletics are advising training groups of up to 12, including the coach now. Where has that come from?

Recreational football is OK I think

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EvilPea · 01/08/2020 21:04

Yes recreation football was ok but cricket wasn’t, but now is.

EvilPea · 01/08/2020 21:04

But only 6?!?

Littlerainbowmouse · 01/08/2020 21:06

@Grottyfeet

You can see why people might be confused though? I've been a stickler for the rules but I'm not at all sure what they are now.

So 30 people at a wedding is (was?) Ok but the same 30 people at the ILs the night before is not OK?

England Athletics are advising training groups of up to 12, including the coach now. Where has that come from?

Recreational football is OK I think

Not a clue anymore! I'm as confused as everyone else, I personally think a lot of the problem comes from the law and the guidance not being in line.

As I understand- We obviously should be keeping to smaller groups as this will help reduce spread, however if you wanted to meet up with 29 other people for whatever reason (doesn't have to be a special occasion) the police couldn't fine you or break up the gathering.

Could be totally wrong though!

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Grottyfeet · 01/08/2020 21:07

How do you play cricket or football with only 6 people?

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FluffyKittensinabasket · 01/08/2020 21:08

I really have lost all interest in “the roolz.”

EvilPea · 01/08/2020 21:09

No. This is the thing Most of its guidance not law and the police have more urgent things even if it was law.

Which adds another layer of complication. Now most of us want to do the right thing and follow guidance or law. But some will only follow it if it’s law and that is what Cummings did.

HeronLanyon · 01/08/2020 21:12

Lots of threads here expose this misunderstanding too - posts about going to a party In friends house asking Aibu to leave early type dilemma. When it’s pointed out that the whole party shouldn’t be happening it’s just brushed off.
I’m not doing the reminding because to be honest I am confused beyond belief.
I’ve retreated to acting pretty much the way I have throughout and not really taking that much advantage of whatever easings of lockdown there have been !