Did no one know gatherings at home were limited to 2 households?

[Grottyfeet]

So the only permitted Eid celebrations were having one brother and his family round, or one set of GPs, unless you all live together, in which case there's no change anyway?

I haven't had anyone in my house because the weather here has been lovely and we've stuck to outdoor gatherings, where up to six are allowed, but I have been vaguely aware it was only two households allowed to meet indoors. Even in the pub you're only supposed to meet up with one other household.

It does seem to have been a shocking failure of communication though.

@Grottyfeet

This one really doess confuse me, so can any of those who have the rules clear help?

Are we still wfh where possibly or are we returning to work to support coffee shops etc? I've looked at the guidance which says:

"3. Help people to work from home

You should take all reasonable steps to help people work from home by:

discussing home working arrangements
ensuring they have the right equipment, for example remote access to work systems
including them in all necessary communications
looking after their physical and mental wellbeing"

But seems to be in direct contradiction with what the PM has been saying?

I don't mind either way. I've enjoyed working from home, but I'm happy to go back once advised to do so, I just don't know if that's now?

Yes ceeveebee, I quoted it upthread, copied from Govt website yesterday

[quote ceeveebee]The guidance on lockdown areas includes clarification on childcare - (nannies childminders and holiday clubs ok, family and friends not ok). It’s been updated several times since it was first published.

www.gov.uk/guidance/north-west-of-england-local-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do#history[/quote]
Hardly. It doesn't mention the use of family members who aren't registered providers in non bubble situations, in private homes, where no other alternative is available. A significant omission, particularly in the post-Cummings landscape.

I quite agree that this is all unenforceable toriessuck, and regardless of what the Greater Manchester regulations say when we eventually get them, I'll be continuing to both use and provide ad hoc childcare within the wider family where there's no other alternative. And it will take place in private residences where we can control who enyers and the standard of cleanliness, not a park (even on the off chance weather permitted every time!) However that's not quite the point.

But there is a stage before that - stage 1 is to carry out the risk assessment in which employee has to decide whether or not it is safe/preferable for employees to return to the office.
If they decide that it’s better for then to work from home, then they have to do everything they can to help them do so. That is not the same as “wfh if you can”

You should read the guidance for your sector which makes it clear that the decision is now down to the employer

Hardly. It doesn't mention the use of family members who aren't registered providers in non bubble situations, in private homes, where no other alternative is available. A significant omission, particularly in the post-Cummings landscape.

It does mention them, it says you can’t do it other than in a park!

@ceeveebee

Hardly. It doesn't mention the use of family members who aren't registered providers in non bubble situations, in private homes, where no other alternative is available. A significant omission, particularly in the post-Cummings landscape.

It does mention them, it says you can’t do it other than in a park!

As I said, it doesn't specifically deal with situations where no other alternative but unofficial childcare in a private home is available. There is no point pretending that comments from various government members on the Cummings situation didn't muddy the waters there either.

For me after the Cummings scandal I have assumed the guidance is something we take with a pinch of salt, like he did.

I'm not following the rules to the letter just so people like him can drive on car-free roads!

I actually follow the rules 90%, am happy to wear a mask etc, have no need or want to go to non-essential shops. I don't use public transport. I have been working the whole time, not a home, but in a safe way.

If I invite a couple of friends to my garden & it starts raining and we go inside, I feel that's a risk I want to take. After DC I'm not going to sit in the pouring rain when I have a perfectly good sitting room empty!

The gov have been very weak and deliberately vague.

They want us out and about spending money and going to work, but not to see our friends and families (unless there's economic activity involved) - well fuck them!
I know what my priorities are thank you, especially as this virus is here to stay.

You wanted to be PM Boris, you worked bloody hard to get there, now you are just sitting on your fat arse not showing any signs of leadership? Slow hand clap from me 👏 👏 👏

For anyone who hasn’t seen, the regulations were published yesterday.

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/828/contents/made