2 week Quarantine re-introduced when returning from Spain

[Motheroftwofeline]

Just heard this on breaking news.

From midnight tonight? Bad news for anyone who is there now and due to travel home. We were supposed to be going at the end of August and now I’m limbo about what to do!!!

Mine are too. This is the line they keep parroting.

9/11 a bit different because many insurers don't cover acts of terror : however, airlines were largely unaffected and packages were not affected at all.

Sorry but what do you mean by "airlines were largely unaffected" in the context of 9/11?

Most were certainly affected both operationally and financially by 9/11 and it took a lot of effort and quite some time to get people flying again, certainly on some routes.

www.ft.com/content/8c4e90f4-c61e-447d-a3ef-78d29e4cf56d

traveltips.usatoday.com/effects-911-airline-industry-63890.html

Yes, I know it did, but the package industry was a bit cossetted from a lot of that. I am not talking about people 'just' going on flight here. the package industry to Spain is huge so , if you had a package holiday booked then (which many did ) the passengers either went , or were refunded. in full.

But, largely , it is quite similar because it should be the holiday firms, not the insurers dealing with this.

Ah OK, thanks.

I think it’s very ignorant of people to be taking holidays during a pandemic, whether the holiday was pre booked from last year or not. Personally, I’d rather lose my deposit or whatever than go away and risk getting infected and unknowingly infecting those that are at high risk with existing conditions with the potential of them dying if they got Covid. Some people are Selfish. We all need a holiday. I for one am a key worker and I could with one but I can also wait.

@Lucky2Be

I think it’s very ignorant of people to be taking holidays during a pandemic, whether the holiday was pre booked from last year or not. Personally, I’d rather lose my deposit or whatever than go away and risk getting infected and unknowingly infecting those that are at high risk with existing conditions with the potential of them dying if they got Covid. Some people are Selfish. We all need a holiday. I for one am a key worker and I could with one but I can also wait.

so you have chosen not to leave your house since March to avoid the risk. That's fine.

But for many, there's more risks in being infected in the UK than in abroad - why do foreign countries allow brits is beyond me, but that's another debate.
Might as well have a life and go on holiday frankly.

What is unreasonable and selfish is refusing the quarantine when you knew the risk existed.

People suggesting that they had to go because they booked it before the pandemic. Surely you had only paid the deposit by the beginning of lockdown so wouldn't have lost that much money if you didn't go. If you paid the whole lot months in advance, more fool you.

@mrpumblechook

People suggesting that they had to go because they booked it before the pandemic. Surely you had only paid the deposit by the beginning of lockdown so wouldn't have lost that much money if you didn't go. If you paid the whole lot months in advance, more fool you.

I booked flights separately of the order of 1k. Airlines don't do deposits you pay in full but thanks for the judgy comments. More fool me eh! Brilliant!

@mrpumblechook not everyone goes in a package holiday.
I’m due to go to Japan In November. I’ve spent 1.5k that If airlines doesn’t allow me I’ll lose. You might be happy to loose that amount. I’m not. If that makes me selfish then I’ll be.
I’m also Spanish due to visit my family. Haven’t seen then since Xmas. If it makes me selfish then I’ll be as well.

I’ve barely left the house and met with peopke since March and I wfh so don’t even meet anyone for work . I find more selfish those that keep meeting with friends without any social distancing or those that go out to celebrate their football team has achieved anything. We all contribute to the current situation not only those that travel abroad

@mrpumblechook not everyone goes in a package holiday.

I have never been on a package holiday and have never paid more than a deposit for accommodation in advance. There was no need to book a November flight months and months in advance. You took a risk in doing so can't complain if you lose money because of it.

@Lucky2Be

I think it’s very ignorant of people to be taking holidays during a pandemic, whether the holiday was pre booked from last year or not. Personally, I’d rather lose my deposit or whatever than go away and risk getting infected and unknowingly infecting those that are at high risk with existing conditions with the potential of them dying if they got Covid. Some people are Selfish. We all need a holiday. I for one am a key worker and I could with one but I can also wait.

If you can happily wave goodbye to £2.5k then you have more money than I do...

I am going on my holiday... to the middle of nowhere.... an isolated gite for JUST MY FAMILY... the only place we will be going is to the supermarket .... JUST LIKE I WOULD IN THE UK.... driving..... no airplanes.... channel tunnel.... no ferry....
Less mixing with people than when we are at home where we live in close proximity to neighbours.

@mrpumblechook

People suggesting that they had to go because they booked it before the pandemic. Surely you had only paid the deposit by the beginning of lockdown so wouldn't have lost that much money if you didn't go. If you paid the whole lot months in advance, more fool you.

Can’t pay “deposits” for the channel tunnel, full amount payable at time of booking (our tickets can be used anytime in the next 12 months though).

Balance of our accommodation had to be paid in February and we’d already paid 50% as a deposit.

That’s the way it works with the sort of independent holidays we go on.... in over 20 years of this sort of holiday we’ve never hit any problems......

@mrpumblechook have you ever booked a holiday outside of Europe on the last minute ? Because I’ve and the price it’s not the same. In fact my flights to Japan at the moment with the current situation are worth 2k. If I can save £500 then not sure what is the problem. There is a risk whatever you do in life. And if I can recover my money based on advice given by the government then I’ll try it.

I don't agree it is ignorant at all to operate within the current allowed rules of your country.

It is ignorant to try to find loopholes and sneak round the rules, a la Cummings, or not to follow things like quarantine.

That said, given a lot of people's working conditions and the whiteness of sick pay, I understand the temptation. It's hard to do your bit for a country that has really not treated its lower paid workers well at all.

Whiteness = shiteness

There was no need to book a November flight months and months in advance.

There might well be, especially if an individual needs to guarantee being on specific flights on specific dates between specific airport pairs....and most especially if it's Long Haul flights and they are working to a budget

One size does not fit all.

@mrpumblechook have you ever booked a holiday outside of Europe on the last minute

I don't book them at the last minute but you don't have to book 8 months in advance to get a cheap ticket which is what you apparently did if you booked before we knew there was a pandemic..

But what if you have to quarantine from France, CouldBeOuting? You may wfh and not be bothered, but others might have “outside world” jobs, and what about sending dcs back to school in September? Are children who have been to quarantine countries prior to the start of term going to be off for two weeks?

We cancelled our holiday. Great shame, but these are unprecedented times and to my mind the game was not worth the candle.

There was no need to book a November flight months and months in advance.

someone is clearly not used to travel and make plans.

what about sending dcs back to school in September? Are children who have been to quarantine countries prior to the start of term going to be off for two weeks?

we are still in July... plenty of time to go on holiday, and isolate for 2 weeks when you are back and still go back to school on time early or mid September.

I always book my USA flights 11 months before hand. Usually to get the best prices. I wish I would have looked in my crystal ball last September.

@SantaClaritaDiet

As I said, I am a key worker, so no I haven’t been staying at home. Do I want to go to work during this pandemic, NO. I just think that people who think it’s acceptable to go abroad during a time like this and then moan about losing pay from working as they have to quarantine is beyond me. Either way you are probably going to lose some money.

someone is clearly not used to travel and make plans.

I am actually.

8 months in advance to get a cheap ticket which is what you apparently did if you booked before we knew there was a pandemic

10 months. And not sure what the problem is to be honest. Ive got an insurance that covers it and all my hotels in Japan can be cancelled til the last minute.

As said there are risks whether you book it 10 months or 1 day in advance. Nobody would have predicted this. And that’s why there are insurances and government sets rules that airlines / companies should follow rather than do whatever they want.

@CouldBeOuting

Depends on the risks. You can’t make money when you are dead. 🤔