Lots of good news at the moment!

[FrugiFan]

www.bbc.com/news/health-53467022
A trial of a drug which could reduce ICU admission by 79%, and is already in use for other things so doesnt need human trials for side effects etc.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839
Promising news about one of the many vaccines in production.

Hospital admissions have not increased, more than 2 weeks after pubs and restaurants reopened.

Lots of reasons to think positive at the moment

Thank you for this thread. All you hear is second waves, schools doomed. So nice for positivity thank you OP 💕

Sweden showing good decline in cases in recent times...

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

www.euronews.com/2020/07/28/sweden-s-coronavirus-spread-slows-but-immunity-still-a-puzzle

Sweden has kept its schools open throughout...

@Orangeblossom78

Sweden has kept its schools open throughout...

I screenshot this a while ago from a study comparing child cases in sweden and norway. Children made up a tiny % of cases despite remaining open in sweden. It showed that few teachers had a confirmed case, and there were less secondary teachers than primary. Which goes against the narrative in the schools thread. It also gives the risk level compared to other occupations which is small.

which gave them a chance to find..

"...contact tracings in primary schools in Finland found hardly any evidence of children infecting others, according to the working paper by the Public Health Agency of Sweden and the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare. What’s more, there’s no increased risk for teachers, according to a Swedish comparison of cases among daycare and primary school staff, compared with risk levels in other professions."

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-19/covid-s-spread-in-schools-is-questioned-in-latest-nordic-study

Just bumping and showing support for a positive thread.

Finland, not Norway sorry

Haha snap, looks like we were both looking at same info @Orangeblossom78

also

"After two months of remote learning, Finnish children returned to school in May, and national infection rates have continued to decline since then."

More positives..

Yes cross posted

Thanks for this.

There are so many on MN that love to spread the doom and gloom despite evidence to the contrary and falling rates they still love to ramp up the fear.... a couple of other threads have the usual doom and gloom and can't do anything merchants spreading their particular brand of unhappiness and woe...

Thanks @FrugiFan ..... in real life lots of people seem quite upbeat and the facts coming through are better all the time .... good to have positives shared as well as reading the deluge of moaning....

@Napqueen1234

Indeed.... some threads are full of (and seem to attract) the second wavers.... doom merchants and the hyperbole

Coronavirus: why the Nordics are our best bet for comparing strategies

theconversation.com/coronavirus-why-the-nordics-are-our-best-bet-for-comparing-strategies-135344

@Orangeblossom78

I also gave up on the school thread of doom. Any report, even positive research is shot down.... There are a considerable number of people who stick together and love to poo poo anything positive ... better to post here than enter the dementors lair

I have been dragged in...argh! Couldn't help myself! I am a teacher myself but cannot bare that nobody can suggest a solution to what the hell working parents should do in the event of part time schooling. Homelessness and hunger are just as big issues!
Anyway, back to positive news....

@Jrobhatch29

I have been dragged in...argh! Couldn't help myself! I am a teacher myself but cannot bare that nobody can suggest a solution to what the hell working parents should do in the event of part time schooling. Homelessness and hunger are just as big issues! Anyway, back to positive news....

You are braver than me. Been sitting on my hands, wanting to ask what they propose teachers with children do if there is part time schooling (noticed a few, including yourself have mentioned it and been ignored).

What I also find ironic is that the phe data on occupations showed shop workers are the most at risk. For months we have all trotted off to the supermarket maskless, with nobody saying we must protect the shop workers. There are no threads about that.

@Jrobhatch29 @Littlebelina that’s what’s so frustrating about the other thread. ‘No no that won’t work’ to every single bloody option. Just moaning and no actual suggestions! Why not focus on the positives if you worry about something you end up enduring it twice!

While this is good news, please, please don't use this as an excuse to let up with taking care. The virus is still very much with us. Even if, hopefully, we have a better way to deal with it.

I think that the places we have been looking at such as Sweden, Finland are definitely taking care with things like distancing and hygiene.. we don't need to live in fear to use common sense..

Oh I’d actually like to see this positive stuff on the negative school thread

@MarshaBradyo

Oh I’d actually like to see this positive stuff on the negative school thread

I have posted that nordic study. I havent looked yet but I know for a fact there will be a "you cant compare us with sweden blah blah blah". Considering on MN sweden is apocolyptic, finding teachers are at no extra risk is a positive!

Looking on Apple News I saw a link to The Sun about the rapid turnaround test for Covid- 30 minutes. Seen stuff about it before but as it's The Sun am sceptical that this is actually newer news rather than a rehash. Anyone seen any reliable updates?

Some testing turnaround data:

Table 2: time taken from receipt of the test by a laboratory to the time the result is published, pillar 1, 9 July to 15 July
9 July to 15 July: number of tests (percentage)
Total tests conducted in pillar 1 263,508
Number of tests completed within 24 hours turnaround 230,354 (87.4%)
Number of tests exceeding 24 hours turnaround 33,154 (12.6%)

from - www.gov.uk/government/publications/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-9-july-to-15-july-2020/weekly-nhs-test-and-trace-bulletin-england-9-july-to-15-july-2020