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Lots of good news at the moment!

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FrugiFan · 21/07/2020 15:57

www.bbc.com/news/health-53467022
A trial of a drug which could reduce ICU admission by 79%, and is already in use for other things so doesnt need human trials for side effects etc.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839
Promising news about one of the many vaccines in production.

Hospital admissions have not increased, more than 2 weeks after pubs and restaurants reopened.

Lots of reasons to think positive at the moment Smile

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Orangeblossom7777 · 14/10/2020 11:01

I think the purpose is simply to share any good news - there are plenty of places to focus on negatives!- and I don;t think they are 'nowhere near the truth' Confused

Anyway, just came on to share that if on a low income and told to self isolate people can claim a £500 grant. It seems to be through the local council.

JemimaPyjamas · 14/10/2020 12:02

@Dustballs put it this way; the situation could go on till July. However, this doesn’t mean that things won’t improve till July, it means that things are still likely to start moving positively forward. The vaccine side of things looks promising, but obviously there are a lot of people to vaccinate so it’ll take a long time (like till, say, July!) Things can start rolling, all being well, far sooner. Normality is likely to be gradual and take till next summer but it’s not like it won’t happen

cathyandclare · 14/10/2020 13:04

@Dustballs

Bad news can be true though can't it? I won't read the Daily Mail - but the likelihood of this going on until next July seems very reasonable to me. I'm expecting it to go on longer.

For me - I feel more positive if I'm prepared of the worst. Also prefer to be realistic.

Is the purpose of this thread to drown out current cirrumstances and worries with positive news - whatever they maybe, even if they're nowhere near the truth?

I don't understand.

There's good news and bad news. There's also good and bad spins on the same news, as exemplified by the DM/Independent analysis of the same interview. Maybe go on another thread, there are plenty where only doom and gloom are accepted.
GoldenOmber · 14/10/2020 13:10

For me - I feel more positive if I'm prepared of the worst.

Other people feel more positive if they concentrate on better scenarios. It's not that you're being more 'realistic' than them, or the other way round, it's just different approaches.

If you don't find prospective good news to be very comforting, there are plenty of other more pessimistic threads about. Perhaps find one of those?

dollychopss · 14/10/2020 14:12

@Dustballs please feel free to go to another doom and gloom thread
Most of us are suffering SEVERELY with mental health and need positivity and some positive news IS NEAR the truth

JemimaPyjamas · 14/10/2020 14:23

@cathyandclare put it far better than I did!

tobee · 14/10/2020 14:50

For me, if and when we get a timeframe for a vaccine, and it's actually happening, that will make me feel so much better, wherever I come in the programme.

Kate Bingham, of the vaccine task force, seemed to be saying that first vaccines probably won't put a stop to this but that scientists will be continuing to work on vaccines to improve effectiveness and durability etc.

Flev · 14/10/2020 15:02

@Dustballs

Bad news can be true though can't it? I won't read the Daily Mail - but the likelihood of this going on until next July seems very reasonable to me. I'm expecting it to go on longer.

For me - I feel more positive if I'm prepared of the worst. Also prefer to be realistic.

Is the purpose of this thread to drown out current cirrumstances and worries with positive news - whatever they maybe, even if they're nowhere near the truth?

I don't understand.

You might feel more positive if you're prepared for the worst, but I'm in a situation where I'm only clinging on mentally by just waking up each morning and concentrating on how to survive through today. If I try to seriously consider this continuing until July then I start to enter a real mental danger zone. I think it's another of those ways in which we all cope differently...
feelingverylazytoday · 14/10/2020 15:02

@Dustballs

Bad news can be true though can't it? I won't read the Daily Mail - but the likelihood of this going on until next July seems very reasonable to me. I'm expecting it to go on longer.

For me - I feel more positive if I'm prepared of the worst. Also prefer to be realistic.

Is the purpose of this thread to drown out current cirrumstances and worries with positive news - whatever they maybe, even if they're nowhere near the truth?

I don't understand.

The purpose is really to keep up to date with new research and developments which will improve treatment of this virus.
tobee · 14/10/2020 16:40

Agreed!

clarexbp · 14/10/2020 17:50

I was on that vaccine webinar last night. There appear to have an awful lot of journalists there, considering it was supposed to be a private alumnae event

I left it feeling really uplifted. Prof Pollard was being very careful with his words - dodging the WHEN WHEN WHEN questions very skilfully. He's clearly had some good media training but is also clearly a very measured and careful person.

BUT the overall sense that I got from what he was saying is that there is very likely to be a vaccine of some sort by early 2021, and although it will take time to roll out, things WILL start to get better soon after that. He was also incredibly reassuring about safety. He said that most adverse events from vaccines happen pretty fast - and lots of their participants have been in the trial for six months now, so we can be sure that if it gets approval, it will be safe. He also said that the Russian, the Chinese and the Johnson and Johnson vaccines use very similar tech to the Oxford one, implying that if the Oxford one is safe, then they probably are too.

I was super-impressed by him. He was so magnanimous about the other groups working on this - all he cares about is whether someone comes up with a safe, effective vaccine and that it gets to everyone the whole world who needs it. I hope they wheel him out once the vaccine is being rolled out - he would massively boost vaccine uptake.

Deliaskis · 14/10/2020 18:01

The thing I keep thinking is that when mass vaccination starts... every 1% of the population that is vaccinated means the virus has a harder time finding hosts, and so growth slows, cases steady, and the pressure on healthcare reduces. The virus becomes present but manageable. So yes there will still be some measures necessary in July and maybe even beyond, but rates will start to slow as soon as we start vaccinating, so it won't feel like this.

clarexbp · 14/10/2020 18:04

I'm thinking that too Deliaskis - the moment the first vaccine is given, things start to get harder for the virus.

And there's something about being able to see light at the end of the tunnel too. Once the vaccine comes, we'll be able to see that light, even if it's a few months away, and that will feel much better.

chri55ie · 14/10/2020 18:15

@clarexbp

I was on that vaccine webinar last night. There appear to have an awful lot of journalists there, considering it was supposed to be a private alumnae event

I left it feeling really uplifted. Prof Pollard was being very careful with his words - dodging the WHEN WHEN WHEN questions very skilfully. He's clearly had some good media training but is also clearly a very measured and careful person.

BUT the overall sense that I got from what he was saying is that there is very likely to be a vaccine of some sort by early 2021, and although it will take time to roll out, things WILL start to get better soon after that. He was also incredibly reassuring about safety. He said that most adverse events from vaccines happen pretty fast - and lots of their participants have been in the trial for six months now, so we can be sure that if it gets approval, it will be safe. He also said that the Russian, the Chinese and the Johnson and Johnson vaccines use very similar tech to the Oxford one, implying that if the Oxford one is safe, then they probably are too.

I was super-impressed by him. He was so magnanimous about the other groups working on this - all he cares about is whether someone comes up with a safe, effective vaccine and that it gets to everyone the whole world who needs it. I hope they wheel him out once the vaccine is being rolled out - he would massively boost vaccine uptake.

Thank you so much for posting this. I’m sure it will really help everyone on this thread to hear such a positive opinion on the webinar esp after reading the Daily Mail article.
dollychopss · 14/10/2020 21:53

@clarexbp I took a screen shot of this !!! Thanks so much x

tobee · 14/10/2020 21:55

Blood test developed to predict who will get more severe Covid and therefore be treated with correct drugs earlier:-

apple.news/A793bw_buSb2kCNhOKiU1NA

tobee · 14/10/2020 21:58

(Link to Scienmag via Apple news)

JemimaPyjamas · 14/10/2020 22:08

@clarexbp I can’t thank you enough for that post! It is all feeling too much and your post has helped hugely. Thank you x

thereplycamefromanchorage · 14/10/2020 22:56

Thank you also clareexbp.

alreadytaken · 15/10/2020 11:16

This wont be going on until July because the virus doesnt like sun and when the weather up things will improve and restrictions can be relaxed anyway. At the worst that means early May. However by then I expect more treatments to be available and more rapid tests. I came here to post news of this breath test nltimes.nl/2020/10/15/third-covid-rapid-test-proves-reliable-breath-test-tried-amsterdam

Rapid testing would make a big difference.

We wont need to rely solely on vaccines as many young people will have antibodies and that will be slowing spread anyway in time. As new treatments come along the virus will be less important anyway.

Take your vitamin D supplements regularly and get outdoors as much as you can, it will help you feel more positive.

Cornettoninja · 15/10/2020 11:39

I really wish we had ‘like’ buttons @alreadytaken Star

Your post is a great balance of realism and positivity. Things will be better than they are now once winter is out the way.

alreadytaken · 15/10/2020 11:50

The new treatments should come through before May - one advantage of rising cases is that trials complete sooner. I'm not a positive person, I'm being realistic not optimistic. If I was being optimistic I'd say we'd be in a better place by Christmas.

PatienceVirtue · 15/10/2020 12:01

Yes just to add to a silver lining of a very grey cloud, the nurse who took my bloods for the Oxford vaccine trial this week, said progress is really accelerating due to the rise in cases - over the summer there weren't enough infections to test it properly.

I do tend towards optimism but I think even one functional vaccine will make a massive difference, at least emotionally. And this will combine with more effective treatments to a tipping point where restrictions no longer make sense.

Apparently WHO reckon this will be May 2021. I think emotionally we'll all be feeling more positive a couple of months before that.

sashagabadon · 15/10/2020 12:08

If heard a scientist on radio 4 pm show yesterday. The Evan Davis show, didn’t catch scientist name unfortunately but just of what he was saying is that if we’d had testing at the rate we have now, back in March then there would have been 100,000 positives a day. We have circa 20,000 a day a moment so only a fifth of the situation in March. Positive news I thought?

Sebw · 15/10/2020 15:58

I've just been chatting to one of the study people on Oxford Imperial Covid household study. Apparently they have had their online questionnaire updated to ask people if they've had the vaccine. They have been told in a recent meeting that invites will soon be sent out asking people to come for vaccines, probably high risk groups at first.

Just reporting what was said. Obvs can't check validity.