Lots of good news at the moment!

[FrugiFan]

www.bbc.com/news/health-53467022
A trial of a drug which could reduce ICU admission by 79%, and is already in use for other things so doesnt need human trials for side effects etc.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839
Promising news about one of the many vaccines in production.

Hospital admissions have not increased, more than 2 weeks after pubs and restaurants reopened.

Lots of reasons to think positive at the moment

Yeah I agree, definitely an interesting study considering shared toilet facilities and water sources and just general lack of cleanliness. I really hope this means they are over the worst!

Poor India been hit hard it is heartbreaking

@DebLou47

Poor India been hit hard it is heartbreaking

Sorry I didnt mean to post it as bad news. They've managed to get to herd immunity or close to with a much lower IFR than seen in other places. Its good news really considering the conditions, and we can learn alot from it. They have reported a large asymptomatic % too as most were unaware they had had it!

@Jrobhatch29 sorry I was just saying it has been heartbreaking .... no need to apologise x

@Jrobhatch29

Not so much good news, but I found this interesting www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/mumbai-sero-survey-shows-57-of-those-in-slums-already-infected/amp_articleshow/77226163.cms

57% of Mumbai slums have antibodies. I am not saying this is a good thing that so many infected. The article says this makes the overall IFR 0.05 to 0.1% which is obviously very low considering poor sanitation, overall health and access to health care etc.

I wonder if cultural factors due to living with poor sanitation and general risk of more lethal diseases actually help in some way? I'm thinking things like having the right hand for eating and the left for toilet things... Apologies if this is stupidly naïve.

Also in terms of risk factors, many who would theoretically be most as risk will already have died of something else, how many very old people are there for example?

Although this is a concerning article about impact of schools closing on vulnerable children - a positive was

Last week Mark Woolhouse, a member of the Scottish government’s Covid-19 advisory group, told The Times that closing schools in March was a mistake in hindsight, as there has not been a single confirmed case of a teacher catching coronavirus from a pupil while the risk to children was vanishingly small

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/coronavirus-in-scotland-vulnerable-pupils-failing-to-keep-up-in-lockdown-kj2k0q9vv

@Orangeblossom78 please don't post things like that. You now need to recite 100 times 'nothing matters but covid itself'

@Orangeblossom78 Can I be a pain, would you mind copying and pasting that article? I cant see it behind paywall and would be interested to read.

MN will tell me off if I cut and paste it, but you can see 3 things a week for free...I will add a bit of it.

Last week Mark Woolhouse, a member of the Scottish government’s Covid-19 advisory group, told The Times that closing schools in March was a mistake in hindsight, as there has not been a single confirmed case of a teacher catching coronavirus from a pupil while the risk to children was vanishingly small.

Mr MacRitchie said: “Given the impact of lockdown on our most disadvantaged, we felt it was absolutely critical that young people’s voices were heard and centre stage for all decisions on how to build back better. The loss of education has been compounded by the profound impact on mental wellbeing, confidence and self-belief.

“To avoid losing a generation and further fuelling the attainment crisis, we need to listen very closely to the young people and do what they need us to do. Their feedback is crystal clear.”

Thank you! I must have already read 3 this week it wouldn't let me. That is really interesting. The impact on children has been huge

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7354354/

Blood type not found to be associated with severe covid in this study.
Know this issue caused some anxiety, me included, when it was reported group A were at more risk

Just found a sit called

justgivemepositivenews.com

Site not sit!!

amp.dw.com/en/german-sniffer-dogs-show-promise-at-detecting-coronavirus/a-54300863?__twitter_impression=true

Just a pilot study at present but sniffer dogs trained to identify covid from saliva has a 94% success rate

@Orangeblossom78 you’ve already been told when posting that article elsewhere that absence of proof does not mean proof of absence - there is no way to show where a teacher may have caught Covid. I’ve also pointed out to you that the scientist quoted has very suspect morals to do with lockdown. This is false good news. Real good news is welcome, this is not.

I'm free to post here on this positive thread, if you don't like it maybe return to the schools threads of doom...

[quote CarrieBlue]@Orangeblossom78 you’ve already been told when posting that article elsewhere that absence of proof does not mean proof of absence - there is no way to show where a teacher may have caught Covid. I’ve also pointed out to you that the scientist quoted has very suspect morals to do with lockdown. This is false good news. Real good news is welcome, this is not.[/quote]
"You've already been told". Why do you think it is ok to speak to someone like a child?

I agree with @Jrobhatch29 the tone of that message was not kind. I haven't opened the article but people are free to post and discuss what they wish.

Maybe they are an infant teacher confusing me with a little child

I'm sure the readers here are intelligent enough to embrace critical thinking and do not need blinkered from reading things...

We are all quite capable of forming our own opinions...(but not presenting them as facts)...well most of us anyway...

I suspect they might be reacting to this news, which seems to be partly based on the information posted, perhaps, but not sure

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53581785

Scotland's schools have been given the go-ahead to reopen from 11 August by the country's first minister.

When they continue to post nonsense, then yes, simple words need to be used.

@CarrieBlue

When they continue to post nonsense, then yes, simple words need to be used.

Jeez aren't you just a little ray of niceness

I'm not going to continue to engage with that, because it is a shame to see a nice thread derailed.

People can look for themselves and see what they think.

Shamelessly pinched this from another thread:

"In light of the strong evidence that there is only minimal transmission from children to adults, continued strict social distancing for children is disproportionate and damaging. Many experts have written at length about this and we refer you to the open letters of Professor Ellen Townsend, Dr Sunil Bhopal and to the expert briefings available on www.reachwell.org which highlight the damage and help decision making. We also refer you to the following extracts from the letter by Anne Longfield, the Children’s Commissioner for England, to Sir Patrick Vallance:

“I am concerned that some of the scientific advice and public health guidance around COVID-19 is failing to recognise the specific needs and circumstances of children.”

“A range of paediatric evidence indicates that children are less likely than adults to get COVID-19, and that when they do get it their illness is more likely to be milder…An increasing number of studies now suggest that children play a limited in role in transmitting Covid-19 and are less likely than adults to bring infections into a household.”

“Despite this, the same social and physical distancing rules continue to be applied to children as to adults. This has led to deleterious effects on children, particularly the most vulnerable.” (3)"

On more positive news, France says it will not have another full national lockdown.