Schools Reopening?

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A major, peer reviewed study into transmission in South Korea has established that tweens and teenagers spread the SARSCOV2 virus more than any other age group.

The study involved more than 65,000 people and used South Korea’s exceptionally effective contact tracing system to look at who brought the virus into households. Tweens and teenagers were the highest index case age group. Younger children transmitted at the same rate as 20-somethings.

This is a large scale, rigorous piece of research that proves children are effective at transmitting the virus. It was conducted in a country that implements strict social distancing and mask wearing among children. The authors say the rate of transmission would have been higher if children weren’t subjected to those measures.

Plans to reopen schools more or less as normal in September will place many lives at risk, and increase the likelihood schools will have to close again. The government needs to acknowledge schools will be highly efficient vectors of viral transmission and change its reopening plans.

Published Paper:
wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article

Article on the paper:

www.bloombergquint.com/business/covid-19-spread-fastest-by-teens-and-tweens-korea-study-finds

Openplan - I have explained that, if you read 'Don't feed it' as meaning a person, I agree that's very unpleasant - I hadn't read it that way, but can see that it could be, and understand that would be unpleasant.

However, some of your posts really aren't making sense, so I am wondering whether you are OK? If you are unhappy about a post, MN are always very good about investigating and removing if necessary.

Thanks @Piggywaspushed we have disagreed on a lot. But this is a contentious subject. However to refer to a human as 'it' is really beyond contempt.

OK, good.

Have you read the guidelines?

@CallmeAngelina

cantkeepaway, Don't feed it.

This ixx SD how you referred to me..

Is how

@openplankitchen, I wish to make it quite clear that I did NOT refer to you as "it." I would not and did not. I'm sorry that you have misinterpreted the post.

Don’t feed it = Don’t feed the obvious trolling/ignore it/don’t feed the fire.

Yo have been trolling teachers persistently. Angrlina wasn’t referring to you as it

If you think I'm trolling report my post. Do not refer to a person as it.

I'd recommend both sets of guidelines:

This is the one for September

and

These are the ones for the initial partial opening.

It's worth noting that the government doesn't version mark their documents, not identify where they have changed over time, so these may well not be the documents as originally issued to schools. many, many hours have been spent by school leaders poring over each evolution to work out exactly what has changed / which mistakes have been quietly obliterated.

The silence is deafening

@Piggywaspushed

In FACT, in the EY guidance it even stated exactly how many square metres were needed per child. No point doing that f someone wasn't supposed to measure.

Can you imagine how little legal protection schools would have if they had said in June 'nah ,sod all of that, everyone back in, no SD, no bubbles, sod the anti bac and let's have a sing along while Mr Bellamy supports us with his brass band?'

The space requirements were the same as those precovid as far as I can tell cheqdin.com/starting-a-new-day-nursery/ www.gov.uk/government/publications/preparing-for-the-wider-opening-of-early-years-and-childcare-settings-from-1-june/planning-guide-for-early-years-and-childcare-settings

Sorry you are upset @openplankitchen
I've not read all the posts, but really it's just strangers arguing with each other, try and ignore.

That I did not know and will bow to your factual correction.

Although many EYPs got in lathers about it!

Agree @Pomegranatepompom but these are teachers! It's absolutely disgraceful they refer to other humans as it.

Our poor children being taught by these bullies

The silence is deafening

Yes, because everyone has read exactly what was said and thinks you are behaving like an arse. Suggest you go back and re-read before you make it any worse.

I think it's unkind to continue to pile on when a poster is obviously upset.

Even when that same poster berates the whole thread for staying silent? That’s just more GFery, and you know it.

Pom that poster has managed to make the last several pages about her. She is continuing to do so, with no cause. No one is piling on.

I look forward to @openplankitchen s thoughts on the guidelines schools must operate under and the areas she feels schools have room in which to be flexible. Anything else is derailing the thread and deflecting attention away from her poor grasp of the matter at hand.

If plan was that bothered why continue to goad. Just report the post and walk away...at this point I'm starting to wonder if you're really that bothered openplan or just needing the attention. Maybe park this thread and call a friend for a chat.

And something as basic as chicken pox.
Head at my kids previous school refused to notify all parents of a chicken pox outbreak and a reception class girl died from it as she was immune compromised! Going back to work and public transport is not safe and sending kids back to school is not safe.

Make this post about me?! I've said nothing about me despite being asked many times!

Even if you disagree with me. Referring to me as 'it' is yuck.

No teachers have condemned so I assume this is ok for them?

Sad.

To go back to unions we seem not to have heard from them for weeks. Which is actually giving me the fight hump.

Some non teacher posters really do misapprehend the unions and their heft.

Continuation of thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3973425-Schools-reopening-2

@openplankitchen I am NOT a teacher , just a mere parent.

The fact that you pulled the 'race card' is despicable. SOME posters on here may not necessarily be white British. We on MN can't see or don't know eachother.

Jeez, many of us here have differing herritge.

I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm sure it was meant towards your comments and not directed at you personally.

Perhaps educate yourself on the causes of exponential growth and come back.

Right, I've said it.