Am I OTT or do other people just not care?!

[Lou0808]

Tonight on social media, I've seen several posts from "friends" (and by friends I mean Facebook friends, people from school who I've not actually seen or spoken to in a long time) who are having parties with absolutely zero social distancing.

One particular person has posted videos of people in her house, easily 20 people.
All doing karaoke, drinking shots, dancing.

Another post from a separate person is a picture being in a pub hugging three girls captioned "missed my besties"

A work colleague posted a picture of her young niece saying she's staying over at her house, again hugging her.

I don't mean to sound like the "fun" police. I know we've all desperately missed our friends and families, but the situation is never going to improve unless we follow the guidelines.

I have a 4 month old DD and I've love nothing more than for her to have a cuddle with my mum and her other grandparents, but I just wouldn't allow it.

I desperately miss my friends, I'd love to have them over and hug them, but I wouldn't do it.

Am I being over the top? Am I right for feeling pissed off at people just not following the rules?

I just feel like it's going to drag things out even longer if people just do as they please 😔

@Hearhoovesthinkzebras

Its not ok to have a party with 50 people. I dont think anyone is saying that.

The people holding or attending the parties are saying that. The people insisting that they've had enough now and will make their own assessments are saying it's ok to break the rules if it suits them.

Yes, you could pick it up doing something that's allowed but if you stick to the guidelines - social distancing, masks when required, limit interactions as allowed etc your chances of catching it are much lower.

I totally aporeciate what you are saying. If that article is true and it is airborne then social distancing wouldnt help much though as it will just spread in work places. Not sure what else we can do to protect vulnerable without locking everyone up again. Sadly there will always be idiots wjo will push rules

The point I'm trying to get across is that if people choose to ignore the rules, and just do what they feel like, then it affects us all one way or another.

They may be young and healthy and their risk low, but perhaps the people that could potentially spread it to, won't be!!!

Well yes, we’re a society and we do have an effect on each other. But the low risk, healthy people, often who have taken the biggest risks by working when the numbers were still high and others were safely at home, have sacrificed enough now. They have given up normality for months for the sake of others, it is not fair to expect to them to continue to live such a restrictive life when they have nothing to gain from it and plenty to lose. That is not ok in my mind, risks in life come from more than just a virus.

You cannot change other people’s behaviour, so seriously what is there to gain from sitting at home getting angry about it?

@NailsNeedDoing

The point I'm trying to get across is that if people choose to ignore the rules, and just do what they feel like, then it affects us all one way or another.

They may be young and healthy and their risk low, but perhaps the people that could potentially spread it to, won't be!!!

Well yes, we’re a society and we do have an effect on each other. But the low risk, healthy people, often who have taken the biggest risks by working when the numbers were still high and others were safely at home, have sacrificed enough now. They have given up normality for months for the sake of others, it is not fair to expect to them to continue to live such a restrictive life when they have nothing to gain from it and plenty to lose. That is not ok in my mind, risks in life come from more than just a virus.

Unfortunately this is a marathon and not a sprint. It doesn't go away just because people are fed up. Spain announced a huge lockdown yesterday and now another one today. You can't just will this away.

As for the low risk healthy people being the ones at work throughout - how did you work that out? The people who continued working was determined by job role and, unless they were shielded, had nothing to do with age or health.

But the shielded don't count do they? Somehow we're meant to be immune to the issues facing everyone else.

Nope. They really don't count in many people's eyes. God forbid that you should be prevented from getting drunk with your mates, just because some oldie/sickie might get die.

But the low risk, healthy people, often who have taken the biggest risks by working when the numbers were still high and others were safely at home, have sacrificed enough now.

Huge numbers of older, less fit, and vulnerable people have been working too you know!!

Well yes, we’re a society and we do have an effect on each other. But the low risk, healthy people, often who have taken the biggest risks by working when the numbers were still high and others were safely at home, have sacrificed enough now. They have given up normality for months for the sake of others, it is not fair to expect to them to continue to live such a restrictive life when they have nothing to gain from it and plenty to lose. That is not ok in my mind, risks in life come from more than just a virus.

Wow what a totally selfish attitude to have!!
I know plenty of vulnerable people that have worked throughout, mostly from home but that still counts!

I'm going to assume that you and your family all fall into the low risk category for you to write this.

So basically people are going to do what they want because they are low risk and healthy, sod those they could spread it to!!

Downthread someone mentioned being dispirited by COVID and how it's shown how people are really selfish and unconcerned about others. I'm dispirited by it too. I don't think we should carry on the lockdown any longer, but do think we should, as someone else said, respect that liberty with SD, masks and reasonable behaviour.

I've got 2 p/t jobs and just gave one up to make sure I can be the designated health and safety person in my family. I no longer trust the government or other people to keep my family safe, so I'll have to do it.

@PermanentCobOn

Downthread someone mentioned being dispirited by COVID and how it's shown how people are really selfish and unconcerned about others. I'm dispirited by it too. I don't think we should carry on the lockdown any longer, but do think we should, as someone else said, respect that liberty with SD, masks and reasonable behaviour.

I've got 2 p/t jobs and just gave one up to make sure I can be the designated health and safety person in my family. I no longer trust the government or other people to keep my family safe, so I'll have to do it.

I am not sure how to say this without sounding rude as that's not my intention but that is one of the most extreme reactions I have heard. It isn't the governments job to keep us safe... We have always had to keep ourselves safe.

I've got 2 p/t jobs and just gave one up to make sure I can be the designated health and safety person in my family. I no longer trust the government or other people to keep my family safe, so I'll have to do it.
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What on earth does that entail?

Why on earth would you need to give up a job to police the health and safety of your children? Surely you just don’t take them to places you deem to be risky?

I have sat with a lot of people at the end of their lif, with 40 years nursing, and hardly any of them crackled, "normal"!! Oh, so its 65 now, then government said over 70.This virus was shown to be around in China last August, "seasonal flu" doesnt last nearly a year.

The guidelines have always been open to interpretation and some people have tried to find loopholes to suit themselves throughout this.

The more that things are relaxed the more that this will happen.

I’ve been surprised at some of my friends who have decided to go out of their way to find loopholes to suit themselves - some after having worked in covid wards themselves. It’s frustrated me but I’ve turned a bling eye and done what I think is right for me, my family, friends and colleagues.

I just hope that those who are blatantly not sticking to the guidance are very honest if and when they are contacted by the track and trace scheme, and then abide by the 14 days of social isolation to prevent the numbers getting out of control 🤞🏻

I'm with EnlightenedOwl on this.

I've got 2 p/t jobs and just gave one up to make sure I can be the designated health and safety person in my family. I no longer trust the government or other people to keep my family safe, so I'll have to do it.

Holy shit

Has it not always been your job to keep your family safe? Why can’t you work and do that at the same time? Do you live in an ICU unit/food factory/other particularly hazardous environment?

The epitome of privilege as you evidently don’t need to worry about money. Utterly, utterly batshit.

@FizzFan

I've got 2 p/t jobs and just gave one up to make sure I can be the designated health and safety person in my family. I no longer trust the government or other people to keep my family safe, so I'll have to do it.

Holy shit

Has it not always been your job to keep your family safe? Why can’t you work and do that at the same time? Do you live in an ICU unit/food factory/other particularly hazardous environment?

The epitome of privilege as you evidently don’t need to worry about money. Utterly, utterly batshit.

It really is, it is the most bizarre thing I have read so far. Also having another job means the family are at risk regardless, making the new role utterly pointless.

@PermanentCobOn

* I've got 2 p/t jobs and just gave one up to make sure I can be the designated health and safety person in my family. I no longer trust the government or other people to keep my family safe, so I'll have to do it.*

I think you should use this extra time to concentrate on your mental health!

@PermanentCobOn

designated health and safety person in my family.

😂 I've heard it all now.

@PermanentCobOn

Downthread someone mentioned being dispirited by COVID and how it's shown how people are really selfish and unconcerned about others. I'm dispirited by it too. I don't think we should carry on the lockdown any longer, but do think we should, as someone else said, respect that liberty with SD, masks and reasonable behaviour.

I've got 2 p/t jobs and just gave one up to make sure I can be the designated health and safety person in my family. I no longer trust the government or other people to keep my family safe, so I'll have to do it.

Wtf have I just read

I don't give a fuck what people do , some folk are idiots but ultimately, its up to them.
Its down to our Govt, not individuals, to make and enforce policy/laws.

Thankfully for Johnson, Trump is in the White house or the UK really would have the worlds worst leader but now we can all say "thank fuck we don't live in America" ignoring the fact our death rate is almost double (i had to check that as i didn't believe it)

Ok so this info graphic is from Texas but most of the principles remain the same.

The government's handling of this has been atrocious and has resulted in people taking their chances.

I'm basing my behaviour on risk analysis. We've got more deaths now and a higher spread of Covid than before we went into lock down and I still really don't want to get it. So I'm not going to be having any parties any time soon.

Bars in Texas may not have the same measures as here remember e.g. sitting at tables, for example.

at this point id suggest the only thing that can save the human race from a collective coronary is to step away from social media.

seriously its like a new fucking world with low blood pressure lies just beyond it.

Bars in Texas may not have the same measures as here remember e.g. sitting at tables, for example

Lol, People start the evening obeying the SD rules and guidance and then after a few drinks behave exactly as they like.

We are allowed to order from the bar too, its only certainly Pubs that have tighter restriction.

Look, who knows? it will be there in all the figures in the next 7 to 14 days.

alt SAGE are saying excess 27,000 deaths between now and next April if infection rates do not fall, which Whitty said he would be delighted with.

Philcornwall1 - it is pertinent to the OP because other people’s thoughtless behaviour will cause strict lockdown to be reinstated directly effecting the rest of us.