Leicester facing full lockdown

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According to the BBC www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53206506.
Anyone living there - how do you feel about this? Personally I would feel terribly trapped, almost like I was being punished, like when teacher's used to keep a whole class behind due to the behaviour of a minority.

@Alex50 did they give any idea on how they would find the source and track it? I'm struggling to figure out how they would do this at all let alone as quickly as it needs to be done to stop a heaping load more people being infected.

I think the council sound arrange a mobile double hit of business spot checks combined with testing.

So unannounced visit to factory/warehouse/shop/ office block in most affected postcodes. Check their risk assessment and visual check of social distancing/mitigation and take swabs for testing there and then.

Anything to do with the high BAME population?
In the supermarket I notice the large groups of Asian families shopping together when I am shopping alone to reduce risk.

Leicester's mayor Peter Soulsby was interviewed on radio 4 this morning. He said he received official recommendations this morning that nothing should happen for two weeks- so basically a watch and wait approach.

He was clearly unimpressed with how long it has taken to receive data, the incompleteness of the data, and the outcome. It's quite hard to get a clear and true picture as he is clearly using this as an opportunity to criticise the government- I'm not a fan of his at all, but I'm with him on this one.

I live in a village outside of Leicester. As posted down thread my parents have friends in affected areas living in multigenerational households who intend to continue cutting hair in people's houses, running gym sessions in large home gyms for multiple people and totally ignoring social distancing rules. For some unfathomable reason they don't believe the data or the statistics. They don't watch the news.

No they haven’t said yet, I wonder if they do know?

I’ll be honest I am dreading winter. The prospect of catching flu and covid-19 together is terrifying.

There will be a flu jab available in October. If you don't qualify for it on the NHS, then it isn't expensive to pay for it.

if there was to be a lockdown of a defined area, it seems to me there are two ways to do it.

1. Voluntary. Rely on the local population accepting a restricted life-style whilst those living over an arbitrary line can enjoy greater freedom.
2. Enforced. Either by containing the area and restricting movement in, out and within, or allowing movement but using ID to check whether someone is from the lockdown area; this would only work if everyone has to carry ID and if sufficient checkpoints were in place to discourage people from breaking the lockdown. There is a 3rd way, making people from the locked down area wear an armband or similar - I can't see that being accepted.

It obviously doesn't protect against other viral illnesses, but it's still well worth it.

Local lockdown will be at most going back to the original lockdown conditions and probably not as far as that. People will still be able to travel out of area to go to work or school as they could in the original lockdown. It will not be the case of thousands self isolating and no one allowed out.

So it appears Leicester has to continue under present conditions for another two weeks. Not sure what good that is going to do. Anyone from Leicester will just drive out into the county villages to pubs etc..

It's about money chaotic and being above the law.

@nagynolonger I was just reading that. Wonder when anyone will announce to business owners that they might not be able to open. I know a lot of hairdressers who are making appointments for Saturday

Leicester lockdown: Restrictions could be extended for two weeks www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53217095

Not RTFT but apparently Northern Italy is a major centre of modern slavery in Europe - all those luxury goods ‘made in Italy’ are actually made in China and finished in Italy by illegal workers with no employment rights.

The biggest centre of modern slavery in the U.K. is apparently Leicester.

In both places it would make sense if there were people who can’t afford to lockdown, employers who are breaking all the rules, illegal workers who dare not attend a healthcare centre if they get ill.

We worked with a campaigning organisation last year who told us about N Italy and Leicester. Long before Covid. I doubt this is a coincidence.

Anything to do with the high BAME population
In the supermarket I notice the large groups of Asian families shopping together when I am shopping alone to reduce risk

What has being BAME got to do with it.

Supermarkets even now in my area only allow one person + 1 trolley in per household.

This is down to the supermarkets not following the guidelines.

I live in a village outside of Leicester. As posted down thread my parents have friends in affected areas living in multigenerational households who intend to continue cutting hair in people's houses, running gym sessions in large home gyms for multiple people and totally ignoring social distancing rules. For some unfathomable reason they don't believe the data or the statistics. They don't watch the news

Why does being from Leicester or any of the other areas in the country that have not adhered to the guidelines mean you cannot stand 2m away from each other

Why do some people think the guidelines don’t apply to them when the rest of the country is adhering to the lockdown.

What makes them so special.

What makes the people who attended the BLM marches so special that they think SD or not meeting up with more than 6 people doesn’t apply to them

What makes the beach goers who sit on a crowded beach think the guidelines don’t apply to them

People are literally bankrupting themselves adhering to these guidelines to get this virus under control and some people seem to think that they are entitled to do anything they want.

We live in a largely selfish society where money, getting more stuff and only caring about people and events inside our own bubble matter. Most people don’t give a second thought as to how their behaviour impacts other individuals or the wider community and they don’t want to know
either.
It blows my mind when I talk to family and friends (some of them very well educated) that they don’t read or listen to any news at all and have no clue as to what’s going on outside of their own circle.

Its all just hot air. This government clearly doesn't want to enforce anything at all, ever.

The government are a lethal combination of incompetence and negligence.

I still think the government are going for herd immunity but trying to slow the infection rate. Unless you manage travelers coming into the UK, like New Zealand have done, you are never going to control the spread of the virus.

We live in a largely selfish society where money, getting more stuff and only caring about people and events inside our own bubble matter
and that's the way the government likes it because that's how the elites at the top make a profit from us

I actually think they are so arrogant and so removed from ‘ordinary’ people that they really believe that they are doing a great job of handling the pandemic, they are so privileged and surrounded by sycophants that don’t dare to question them that they truly believe they can do no wrong.

Following last night's conversation about some places of worship failing to close, I learned this morning that most of the shops in my area's large and thriving asian community did the same - even those whch could in no way be considered essential
I'm told that the council official who approached a local traders' association backed off when accused of unfair, racially motivated targeting, and that apparently was that

As a result - and bearing in mind the upcoming 4th July relaxations - I'm once again wondering if Leicester's threatened lockdown is less about actual case numbers and more about encouraging compliance

I don’t think localised lock downs will work. They can’t police them.

Unless we all stop clutching our pearls and shouting racism every 5 minutes, we’re never going to have an open discussion about what isn’t even about race but about cultural differences and how we all reach across and bridge the gaps.

*People are literally bankrupting themselves adhering to these guidelines to get this virus under control and some people seem to think that they are entitled to do anything they want

Well said.

How do people know places of worship failed to close down? ( genuine question ,interested)

Isn't the multigenerational housing situation a red herring.....we were told this about Italy, along with kissing and smoking. Weeks later we launched into our own government santioned melt down

I don't think local eyes look down to all work they can't police them
that's the plan, they know it won't work but they do it anyway and blame the people when it goes wrong

@rosie39forever I agree I think the government are scared to close and police a lockdown to certain areas. Can you imagine thr racial implications of cutting off a certain community that was mostly Asian.