Leicester facing full lockdown

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According to the BBC www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53206506.
Anyone living there - how do you feel about this? Personally I would feel terribly trapped, almost like I was being punished, like when teacher's used to keep a whole class behind due to the behaviour of a minority.

@Alex50 quite right they won’t do it the optics would look too bad instead let’s let the virus get out of hand and blame the people that are most vulnerable to it.

@crosseyedMary

that's the plan, they know it won't work but they do it anyway and blame the people when it goes wrong

^^ exactly what I was thinking

How do people know places of worship failed to close down?

Personal knowledge of their own areas I guess?

If they're going to lock down regions, then the Army needs to be brought in.

The Police are overwhelmed in Liverpool and Manchester (two I know of) as it is.

I'm unsure about locking down regions which have become infected because people work, just above minimum wage jobs and have no choice but to go back to work.

If the lock down in to keep people off work, then yes, but restricted movement, I'm somewhat against.

I know places of Worship, religious meetings that were happening. Many of the people attending are vulnerable.

We warned what would happen when football started up again, but it was ignored.

Which is why I'm against everyone being punished like children.

So the people not adhering have only got themselves to blame if they are ill but I'm sure it will somehow be the mantra of being discriminated against and someone else's fault as per usual

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-leicester-to-be-told-it-must-stay-in-current-lockdown-for-extra-two-weeks-after-spike-in-covid-19cases-12017156

"If they're going to lock down regions, then the Army needs to be brought in.

The Police are overwhelmed in Liverpool and Manchester (two I know of) as it is."

This is not the Army's role. They are not police.

The army will be called in if the police aren’t coping. It’s better than social unrest.

That isn't the Army's role.

I feel some places are hanging by a very tiny thread at the moment.

Regarding places of Worship, pretty early on, I wondered about some communities and their response to guidelines. I took a drive around Salford and Old Trafford and it was entirely business as usual. Shops open, people touching things, congregating on the streets, places of worship going strong. Maybe as in beaches, pubs, visits to Durham and so on, people felt the rules didn't apply to them.

Okay, so according to the Sky report, PHE have "recommended" a 2 week extension to Leicester's lockdown, but the mayor thinks everything's the government's fault and that this idea amounts to "picking on" Leicester

Pity the primary schools aren't fully back yet so they could hand it to the kids to sort out ... after all the attitudes could hardly be more juvenile

Sleepyblueocean. Then they're will be no regional lock down. The Police won't be able to handle it.

They'll have to do the same with other regions and the Police, as said, can't even handle parties in other cities.

With nothing to do and nowhere to go, what do you think will happen?

Sleepyblueocean, it is part of the Army's role, if needed. I can remember numerous times the Army has been brought in, one, in the 80's to clear rubbish when the bin men were on strike.

The Army has many roles.

@Puzzledandpissedoff, I can see his point. People are getting tested, that's what's showing up. There isn't a spike in deaths or hospital admissions.

We've got to get over the fear of testing positive.

Patrolling streets during lockdowns is not one of them. If you want to know what they are have a look at the Army website which says that there are bollocks rumours about and lists some of the false ones.

I can remember numerous times the Army has been brought in, one, in the 80's to clear rubbish when the bin men were on strike
The Army has many roles

This is very true - after all it's not as if anyone suggested the army going in with tanks

Trouble is it's only too easy to imagine the shrieks - whipped up by a frenzied media - of "they're mobilising the state against us!!!"

The army do what the UK government tell them to do. If the country is falling apart and police aren’t coping, the army will be called in.

Ponoka7 I agree completely about the silly panic over every positive test, but to keep this to a level my inadequate mind can grasp, either Leicester has a major worrying outbreak or it hasn't

If it's true then hard decisions will be needed whether the mayor likes them or not ... and if it isn't true I'm back wondering if it's pre-4th July sabre rattling, a sort of "look what we're planning for Leicester - that'll be you too if you don't behave"

Lots of fantasy thinking on here about the army, there isn't enough of them to much anyway.

Army, also Navy and Airforce, personnel are not really trained for civilian policing roles, but they would be available to,reinforce the police in roles where the police asked for reinforcement.

So youncouid gave more checkpoints if they were staffed by 1x police officer and at least 3x troopers, than if each required at least 4x bobbies.

This sort of thing is variously called MAC-P or MAC-A (military aid to civil power/authority) and is signed off at Secretary of State level between the requesting department (who get to pay for operational expenses, but not the full bill,for the capacity) and the MoD. It's the same powers that get them sandbagging, or dealing with foot and mouth, doing Olympic security, building Nightingales, guarding embassies alongside police, and running Covid testing sites.

Government are only saying they "might" need to extend existing restrictions I.e. the relaxation expected next week would be delayed for a couple of weeks.

I met my husband because his Army mates were all away driving ambulances during the strikes in and he didn't have a driving licence so was at a loose end. The Army have often stepped in to fill civilian roles in times of need.

PHE have "recommended" a 2 week extension to Leicester's lockdown, but the mayor thinks everything's the government's fault and that this idea amounts to "picking on" Leicester

I would be asking the Mayor why his community feel entitled to not adhere to the guidelines in the first place. Same as the North West

What makes them so special.

They are being “picked on” because a lot of the residents didn’t adhere to the guidelines in the first place.

This is about individuals not about the government.
The government in hind sight have got somethings wrong but so have many other governments around the world.
One of the things the government did get wrong is thinking that all of the general public have some iota of common sense and intelligence.

Caught the end of an interview with Andy Burnham a couple of weeks ago.

I might have missed the gist of the conversation but he was asking that the small areas where there continued to be higher infections should be identified. I. E the streets in the towns, not just areas around a town.

I think he realised that despite the guidelines a lot of Manchester had never really bought into stopping this disease.
We should have been virtually free of it by now.
I remember early on in the lockdown reading that the police had been breaking up street parties in the area. I think a figure of 600 incidents had taken place.

If you wait for spikes in hospital admissions and deaths it is too late.