Leicester facing full lockdown

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According to the BBC www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53206506.
Anyone living there - how do you feel about this? Personally I would feel terribly trapped, almost like I was being punished, like when teacher's used to keep a whole class behind due to the behaviour of a minority.

*Indian households have higher income than white households on average

any statistics around that?

www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/pay-and-income/household-income/latest

If they leak it before it happens more people will leave.

also

www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/articles/ethnicitypaygapsingreatbritain/2018

higher median wages, less likely to be low paid than white British, much more likely to be well paid.

Good but still BAME

This is a bit frightening. What happens when furlough stops and you town is put into lockdown and you can’t go to work? My husband works in London, we live 40 miles away, at the moment our new infections rate are low but if this changed and we had to lockdown and my husband couldn’t go to work, how would we pay our bills?

If they leak it before it happens more people will leave

Given the amount of carry-on in the media over this, I'd say that ship's already sailed

Given the amount of carry-on in the media over this, I'd say that ship's already sailed

No doubt. I don’t get the rationale for discussing what might happen given that people might act on it by leaving.

Good but still BAME

sorry what does that mean?

it means, as a reasonable thinking person who lived in Leicester and who is BAME and has worked for 20 plus years with asylum seekers and who is passionate about the hateful divide between rich and poor , I think there may be some connection between a close knit, non white community and spikes in Covid.

But the same happened with Jews, who are white, and who have the highest death rate of all groups.

Close knit is one thing, but it's not connected to your skin colour.

"Decades of government underfunding (the East Midlands has one of the lowest amounts going to the county and city councils of every local authority in GB) many areas of the city have just been forgotten about, many people in minimum wage jobs and unemployed. Housing has been a major problem in the suberbs lots of substandard private rentals and overcrowding."

I dont think the government can be blamed entirely. Some overcrowding is because some groups are heavily family orientated and choose to live that way, despite having plenty of money.

@Puzzledandpissedoff I don't attend any places of worship but some are set up for people to visit as and when they can, and are open all day (and all night in the case of a Sikh temple pre lockdown). So ceremonies and meetings may last for hours and people attend as and when they can after work, dipping in and out....

For many of the Asian people that I know within Leicestershire their religion is an enormous part of their life, and the centre of their community. There is a wonderful sense of Kinship,and they are very inclusive and welcoming. Many people attend daily (or did before lockdown). I imagine that the loss of this has been a huge blow.

I don't mean to exclude and Christian religions from my post. It's just that I don't have any devout Christian friends but I know many devout Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs.

Close knit is one thing, but it's not connected to your skin colour.

Absolutely?

Best of luck gathering statistics from the Hassidic Communities.

and while we're talking close knit, travelers or gypsies?

For many of the Asian people that I know within Leicestershire their religion is an enormous part of their life, and the centre of their community. There is a wonderful sense of Kinship,and they are very inclusive and welcoming

I know, Chaotic45, and it's often a wonderful thing
I just genuinely hadn't realised that, when they said "places of worship to close", they'd made exceptions for some

which Jews are we talking about here actually?

@randomer I've no issues with the travelling community. But the behaviour of some of the hundreds of people close to Leicester this weekend has been just awful. I'm sure it wasn't all of them, but I saw with my own eyes huge groups stoning people going past the field that they have camped in (both in a footpath and on the river), driving ponies and traps along main roads including a double carriage way. Barging last orderly queues into local shops. The litter in the field that they have camped in is horrendous. It's hard not to feel very disappointed that this has happened.

@Puzzledandpissedoff I'm genuinely not sure that official exceptions were made. Sadly lots of people haven't followed the guidelines.

Structural inequalities unpinned the settlement of Asian and polish communities in Leicester. So the government have played a massive part in that yes.
Why are the travelling community being mentioned so much no clusters in Lutterworth/ullesthorpe or market Harborough?!

which Jews are we talking about here actually?

Jewish ones.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/coronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyreligiousgroupenglandandwales/2marchto15may2020

I'm in Leicestershire close to the biscuit factory. I'm expecting that I'll possibly be included in any measures.

Ive adhered to the rules and will be annoyed if we're placed back in lock down. I'm angry for those that have chosen to break lock down, it's not just the horse fair there was also a large blm demo in the city centre 2 weeks ago. I said at the time I would be expecting a spike from it. 4000 prople crammed around the clock tower, it wouldn't be possible to social distance.

But if it happens it happens, and there is nothing I can do about it.

If I lived there I'd want it to happen so we can stay safe and not have to keep going to work despite clearly high infection rates! Better to have smaller, shorter lockdows then whole country right?

There are reports of a sandwich factory outbreak, but it seems very small scale compared to other food processing outbreaks.

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/staff-samworth-brothers-sandwich-factory-4269744

If everyone followed the rules/guidance, there'd be no infection hot spots and no need for lockdowns etc

What rules? they are at best "guidelines" or "common sense"

We don't have the means to do any local lockdowns, we couldn't even enforce a national one at the height of a global pandemic.

All that might happen (locally) is pubs won't open on 4h july, then again, Association of Police Chief Constables thinks they shouldn't open then full stop but we are full steam ahead... Covid is over lol!

Spain & France are patrolling beaches to prevent what we all saw in Bournemouth etc we haven't because we we do not have the Police numbers or anyone else to do so.

The risk of death involving COVID-19 varies across religious groups, with those identifying as Muslims, Jewish, Hindu and Sikh showing a higher rate of death than other groups

and yet I was accused of racism? How so?