I know no one who’s had coronavirus and neither do my friends or family

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Or any of their friends or families.
But I have 3 friends who’s businesses probably won’t survive, another who’s husband has just been made redundant, possibly more to follow, a friend who’s teen has sunk into depression. All the dc have missed out educationally and no prospect of getting back to school anytime soon. That’s just my selfish perspective. There’s loads worse off as a consequence of the impact of lockdown and the slow easing out.
Feeling so frustrated with this now. We’re all suffering and I’m not quite sure if the benefits are going to outweigh the losses long term.

I know several people who have died, 30 miles or so from where I live, the youngest 67, the oldest 95. Elderly with underlying health conditions.

@Username198 - I absolutely don't think this and I would be gutted for your friend too. But I need to point out that according to the OP, your friend's mum is considered one of the 'end of life' - why are we in lockdown for them people. Just to stress that I absolutely disagree. But if you are supporting the OP's argument, you should know that.

I googled your statistics for my village. Population 2000. 4 deaths.

I didn't know that because we haven't been out and about.

I know of 4 people who died in the (larger) town I work in; I imagine there are many more.

I know of one person who has been in hospital with it and I know one person who has tested positive but didn't have any symptoms. I also know at least 700 people who have definitely had it but they haven't been tested but they know they did! Lol.

Myself and my DS have had it. I know one other friend who had to be admitted to hospital with it like me. A family friend has died from Covid. I know 4 others who have had it but ok to stay at home. I also know 4 who had it but no symptoms atall. I expect there are a lot of people like that. 2 months on I'm recoveted but still have fatigue and breathlessness. I hope you and your friends and family continue to stay healthy as it is not a nice illness.

I know one person who was on a ventilator, one who died (was in 90s and would probably have died this year anyway) several who tested positive but not too ill. One on oxygen at home.

If you don't know anyone who has had it, I guess lockdown worked. But there will be a price to pay economically. The alternative could have been worse (or better if we'd locked down a week earlier)

I don't know anyone who has lost their job. I do know one person whose business has done exceptionally well. Most people I know have jobs which are secure at the moment.

people keep saying 40,000 because it sounds like a big scary number but thats out of 68,000,000 so that is 0.0006% of the population and the death rate is dropping rapidly

more people die on average per season from flu than have from covid and yet how many people do you know that die per year of flu?

I know people who have had the virus, myself included.
Four so far have lost their lives and on is still critical.
None of us caught it from each other btw. All have been tested.

I was the second to get it and hadn't seen the first since last summer.

Long term impact on my health? Honestly cannot say, but it wasn't good to begin with. And I've had this risk of icu from May last year. That risk didn't go simply because the country locked down. Could have sent myself there the other day when I had a brain fart and forgot I cannot eat rice loool.

@mam0918
Do you know how many people die each year in the UK and Wales for seasonal flu?

It doesn’t surprise me you don’t know anyone, 48% of deaths are in care homes, 18 people under 20, 202 under 40 have died. There was a lot scaremongering at the beginning of lockdown.

This thread is unnerving because it shows how many people who don't know anyone with confirmed COVID cannot understand that lockdown affected them positively in the overall picture, because the illness didn't come near them because of it.

In the early days I thought it was a real overreaction, and I still think talking of it as a war is deeply insulting to people who've lived through war, but lockdown really was necessary and the whole country benefitted. Overall.

The economy is profoundly worrying though.

My friends grandad died of covid as did my bils best friend, he was 37 with no health conditions. My uncles friend died of covid, he was 43, overweight but other than that he had no health conditions to be aware of. My cousin's husband has just tested positive and he has COPD so who knows how that'll end. I'm not over the top with the virus, I'm of a mind that generally we'll all probably get it anyway or we'll probably get a vaccine at some point in the future, however, you should definitely think yourself lucky that you've been unaffected by the virus ( bar lockdown, financial etc )

@mam0918 - how many people die per year in the UK from flu?

it's also frightening how people, and at a bigger level the media, have used COVID as a way of attacking their neighbours and trying to control them. Shows something about mass human interaction.

This thread is unnerving because it shows how many people who don't know anyone with confirmed COVID cannot understand that lockdown affected them positively in the overall picture, because the illness didn't come near them because of it.

Indeed, @SeaEagleFeather.

DH and I have had it.

It was my friend's DH funeral this week, he died from Covid.

6 people in my mums nursing home have died from it and all the staff, bar one, have had it (confirmed and tested)

2 of DH's colleagues have died from it (massive company to be fair with 1000 employees)

3 of my teaching colleagues have had it, one in ICU but now thankfully out and recovered.

So, yes, I have seen the devastation in causes first hand.

I’m in Liverpool and whilst cases are high here I don’t know anyone who’s had it or died and no one I know does either but our population is quite big so 🤷‍♀️

My DP has 30+ per day into hisA and E dept at the height of it. Many of whom were beyond help at many different ages.
My boss has had it and many of the families at the school where I teach have had it.
These 2 places are many miles apart, so it's not like we live in a hotspot.

My friends are doctors in the cities main 4 hospitals in the area and they’ve had hardly any admissions past 3 weeks so it’s defo not around much in community

people keep saying 40,000 because it sounds like a big scary number but thats out of 68,000,000 so that is 0.0006% of the population

It's only that "low" because of the lockdown. It would have been hundreds of thousands as it was spreading exponentially back in March.

@mam0918

I don't know the figures for seasonal flu, so maybe you could enlighten me. But let's say, for the sake of argument, more people die from flu each year - that number would be those who die during a whole winter flu season. Over 40,000 people have died from Covid in just a few short weeks. The number is starting to drop because of the (albeit pathetically lax) lockdown and social distancing.

Sigh, More people do not die of flu in the U.K. Nowhere near, not even in the bad flu year of 2018.
But they are determined to believe this is ‘just the flu’ & it’s all been a hysterical overreaction and only they are smart enough to see the truth. Alt-right & Russian bot accounts are full of this nonsense on Twitter

I don't know where you got your figures from @mam098 but
Public Health England estimates that on average 17,000 people have died from the flu in England annually between 2014/15 and 2018/19. However, the yearly deaths vary widely from a high of 28,330 in 2014/15 to a low of 1,692 in 2018/19.
Latest deaths for covid with lockdown are over 41,000 deaths in just 2 months.
It really is not like flu!

Thank you @Nonnymum

OP we have had 41,000 deaths. DEATHS. Each one a terrible loss with terrible suffering for bereaved families.
At the end the of the day children can catch up education, you can new jobs or go on benefits, depression can be treated. DEATH is the end. That's it. No chance of recovery from death.
Lockdown has saved millions of lives. Lockdown is essential.
Lockdown prevents much more harm than it causes.
Lockdown has damaging effects for sure but none are permanent like death is.