I know no one who’s had coronavirus and neither do my friends or family

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Or any of their friends or families.
But I have 3 friends who’s businesses probably won’t survive, another who’s husband has just been made redundant, possibly more to follow, a friend who’s teen has sunk into depression. All the dc have missed out educationally and no prospect of getting back to school anytime soon. That’s just my selfish perspective. There’s loads worse off as a consequence of the impact of lockdown and the slow easing out.
Feeling so frustrated with this now. We’re all suffering and I’m not quite sure if the benefits are going to outweigh the losses long term.

I sat with 10 friends. We tried to calculate how many people we all knew. we worked out that of this extended extended group there was possible out of about 25,000 people. None of which , none, we knew no one who had died.

Wow, your friends know 2,500 people each (with no overlap) well enough to be informed if they die?

Well I'm convinced, it must all be a load of nonsense. I can take up licking door handles again.

I know of nobody who has been poorly with it either.

......However several friends work in the hospital and it turns out they’ve all had it but without symptoms

(They’ve been blood tested for antibodies or something)

I don't know anyone who's had it. I don't support the lockdown.

Me and all my family of 6. Mid March I am still short of breath and ill.

I only know that DS had it fairly mildly for about a week, his partner works in A and E and got it first, was tested, then DS got it, another NHS friend of DS also had it. DS does not live near me though and I know of no-one local who has had it

My aunt passed away from coronavirus so I find these comments so hurtful.

How about those who have died from lockdown? Do their lives not matter in all this?

@Username - Everyone's life matters.
Lockdown also saw a reduction in deaths from traffic and work related accidents.

My DH had had it but I haven't (both had the antibody test).

For those saying they don't support the lockdown, we're coming out of it now. All shops will be open on Monday. Bars, restaurants and coffee shops following. It's summer, so sitting outside is easy. Enjoy getting out there. I'm not in the shielded group, but I'm sympathetic that they won't feel confident in getting out in public yet.

I have three friends who have had it from various parts of the country and two relatives have sadly lost their lives.

I think it depends on where you are and your social circle. I'm in London and an NHS mental health nurse. I've known a few colleagues have it, mainly from BME groups.

A shopkeeper in my local parade of shops has been in hospital since April and nearly died, and still has life changing complications from it.

As yet I've yet to meet someone lose their job or business though it's obviously early days and I can see that changing.

DianaT1969

I’m not sure coming out of lockdown now is much consolation for those who have died from operations being cancelled. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have done anything to stop the spread but by cancelling life saving non covid operations, patients with covid lives were more important than non covid patients is exactly what they were saying.

And I agree with those who pointed out without lockdown you can guarantee you would have known people suffer.

@Username198 - are you aware that many ill people picked up Covid-19 while in hospital and died? Where are these Covid -free operating theatres, hospital wards and health staff of which you speak?

Life saving ops weren't cancelled here. Only elective surgery. All emergency surgery carried on. I think there's a lot of disinformation going around about deaths caused by the lock down.

I suspect it's mostly put about by people who want to get rid of social distancing altogether, send all kids back to school and have all shops open. To say nothing of having hair cuts.

Every death is a tragedy but Covid is something we have never seen before. And it's still around. If it hasn't impacted on your life just be grateful and have some empathy for those who have lost loved ones. to it.

@Username198 - can you estimate the numbers of operations that would have spread the virus further and killed more I'll people if the NHS hadn't tried to 'clean house'? At least now they believe they have Covid free wards, testing and protocols in place to carry out surgery. Without lockdown that would have been impossible. My sister is due a serious operation and her family have to go into strict 14 day quarantine before she is admitted and for 14 days after she comes out. But at least she feels safe going now. Wild horses wouldn't have dragged her in there in April if the virus had been allowed to continue ripping through the population.

DianaT1969
Yes am I aware but when the alternative is death anyway it’s probably a risk worth taking.

DomDoesWotHeWants
I don’t know if you’re in England but if you are that’s excellent news I’m really pleased to hear that. I’ll let my friend know her mum’s operation wasn’t cancelled and she didn’t then die as a result. She’ll be thrilled.

Handy that you’ve only expressed a controversial opinion OP, because that way you don’t have to offer any concrete evidence.

I think some aspects of the lockdown have been poorly managed. But you clearly don’t understand the meaning of “exponential”. Do you really think that the economy would have carried on its merry way if we had had say 200,000 deaths (even if they were people you’re quite happy to write off)? For every extra death that would have meant a spiralling number of extra cases - some asymptomatic, sure, but others not. So exploding levels of absenteeism in both public and private sectors, both due to sickness and self-isolating (because rather unfairly the virus doesn’t let you know in advance whether you’re going to be asymptomatic or not) and increasing panic - do you really think people would carry on going to work and sending their children to school with thousands of people dropping like flies?

OP do you not have any friends or family who work in hospitals???

They would explain to you what they would have faced if we had not locked down. If hospitals had tried to carry on with all routine work plus covid whilst infections continued to rise many of those younger people who got treatment and recovered would not have done so and many other would have caught it in hospital. Had we locked down earlier we might have prevented the worst but our NHS could not have coped with no lockdown. They would have been turning young people away to die at home or lying in corridors. People suffering like Boris Johnson would have died without treatment (obviously not him as I expect space would be found for him but people his age).

Please speak to anyone who works in ICU if you haven't done so to try to get an understanding. They all feel the same and they are the ones who know what the NHS can cope with.

Some of the comments on here, and this whole thread, are ridiculous. I’ve had it, I have no underlying medical conditions, and I was very ill. I’ve still got lung damage 3 months later.
Just because it hasn’t yet affected you doesn’t mean it’s not out there and it’s not serious. Reality check needed for some here

A dear friend of mine has lost his daughter, who was in her 30s with no underlying conditions.

When you’re financially secure and unaffected by the impact of lockdown it’s easy to say we should just focus on coronavirus and anyone thinking of anything else is a nasty person. It’s not so simple
No one is unaffected by it. My son may lose his business because of lockdown he has a mortgage to pay and is struggling he still supports lockdown though. A business and a house are no good if youor those you love are dead or develop a life changing condition
The thing is its not a choice between the economy or fighting covid. Without lockdown the economy would have still suffered and businesses would still have folded. Because if the virus had been allowed to spread half a million people could have died and many more could have developed life limiting conditions and been off work for weeks or months. In the early days of the virus before lockdown the number of infection were doubling every 3 days. Teachers and doctors would be off work so schools would close anyway and hospital appointments would have been cancelled. Businesses would have suffered because so many people would be off sick.
Given there is no vaccine or treatment yet lockdown was the only answer. We should have done it earlier and stricter though, if we had we might have been out of it by now.

It's not just death from covid to worry about. That is very low risk to most people it's the long term affects that many many people are left with. This has not been picked up by the media yet but it will be eventually.