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The science has left the building (4)

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SouthWestmom · 25/05/2020 19:23

New thread inspired by Whitty and Valance exiting stage right today

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HeIenaDove · 26/05/2020 19:54

#isthisthewaytobarnardcastle is now trending.

HeIenaDove · 26/05/2020 19:54

Fucking hell Is there anywhere he hasnt been.

HeIenaDove · 26/05/2020 19:56

Go Paddy!!!!!!!!!!

HeIenaDove · 26/05/2020 19:58

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Northumbria Police has confirmed it received a report yesterday that Dominic Cummings was in Wooler, Northumberland, in April. The force is not investigating as there is "insufficient information to pursue this any further".

Downing Street denies it.
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Wooler is close to Chillingham Castle, which is owned by Cummings' father-in-law Humphry Wakefield.

JackiFazaki · 26/05/2020 20:02

Yes. You are right Helena, there was a local tv item about them,
(Paddy Mc's wife and family) a few months before lockdown.

His wife Christine, was talking about the abuse they get for parking in disabled spaces as the children didn't " look" disabled. The parent and child spaces are much further away from the entrance of the supermarket they use.

She needs to park near to the supermarket entrance as the children become easily unsettled. I think they are very young, twins and another child. That's the short version. She explained how the children are variously affected. She came across very well.

I learned from it. I hope others did too.

Belindabelle · 26/05/2020 20:03

Looks like the Lockdown tour t shirt is going to need a few more dates added.

whatnametopick · 26/05/2020 20:03

&HelenaDove ohh juicy!
Re following the guidelines when possible with children, I thought that this meant keeping distance in the home etc when symptomatic?

Spotsonmyapples · 26/05/2020 20:04

From the guardian:
Separately, Jonathan Bartley, the co-leader of the Green party, is calling for the cabinet secretary, Mark Sedwill, to be asked to investigate whether the decision to allow Cummings to deliver his televised statement from the Downing Street rose garden breached the special advisers’ code of conduct.

The code, which Cummings himself was involved in updating when Johnson became prime minister, says: “Special advisers must not take public part in political controversy, through any form of statement whether in speeches or letters to the press, or in books, social media, articles or leaflets.”

Love how he can't help breaking rules he's had a role in bloody writing

GrimmsFairytales · 26/05/2020 20:08

I have still got a hunch that wife and child remained in the North and DC went home alone.

I also think this might be the case. It would explain why he had to test his eyesight as apposed to her driving, because she can't drive if she isn't going back to London with him.

Roussette · 26/05/2020 20:12

I've heard from my MP. This is totally unheard of, he doesn't normally respond (I've only sent a few emails in a long time)
I wonder why...
He says he's had a high number of emails from constituents with differing opinions on the matter.
(I actually think if you were proDC, you wouldn't be writing to your MP, buy there you go...)
He says he will pass it on to the PM (no, he won't) but ultimately it's between PM and DC.

Roussette · 26/05/2020 20:15

I also think this might be the case. It would explain why he had to test his eyesight as apposed to her driving, because she can't drive if she isn't going back to London with him

Totally agree. It would explain everything. I think wife and child remained up in Durham whilst he went on back to London. Especially as he kept on about how much he needed to get back at the press garden thing.

If this can be proven, he's sunk. The public won't put up with anymore

FuckThisWind · 26/05/2020 20:18

Ah Wooler. That other North East place that is just full of concrete blocks and not at all picturesque. I'm somewhere between Durham and Wooler Geographically. My very good friend has a second home in Wooler. He hasn't been there of course. Despite the fact that it will be in need of maintenance etc. I do look forward to seeing how much more Mr Cummings has toured the North East. I drive past Seaton Delaval hall on a regular basis (it's on my route between my home and my DDs Dads home) I did a double take a few weeks ago after seeing a similarly unkempt individual to DC.

GrimmsFairytales · 26/05/2020 20:20

Especially as he kept on about how much he needed to get back at the press garden thing

Without rewatching I can't say for sure, but I don't think he said we needed to get back. Just I needed to get back to work.

So another possible hint that she didn't return with him.

trollopolis · 26/05/2020 20:21

You test your eyesight by performing a test. Or by waiting until the symptom which is worrying you to disappear completely.

Not by driving when you are concerned about your fitness to be in charge of a vehicle on the road.

I wonder what his insurers make of his attitude?

ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans · 26/05/2020 20:21

I have just had a look at Mary Wakefield's twitter feed.

On the 12 April, she retweeted BJ saying "the efforts of millions of people to.stay at home is worth it".

Is she trolling us?

This story has been going on for days and i am getting more and more ragey. I just cant see it going away.

HeIenaDove · 26/05/2020 20:22

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/26/durham-police-open-investigation-into-dominic-cummings?CMP=share_btn_tw

Durham police open investigation into Dominic Cummings
Key witness interviewed and police have access to vehicle-tracking software amid claims aide broke lockdown

Durham police have begun their investigation into Dominic Cummings’ alleged breaking of lockdown rules, the Guardian and Daily Mirror have learned.

A witness has been interviewed by detectives, while the officers also have access to software to track the movement of a vehicle used by the prime minister’s top aide.

The developments came after Cummings denied any wrongdoing. It also follows police being asked on Monday to establish the facts by Steve White, the acting police, crime and victims’ commissioner for Durham, who oversees the force.

By Monday evening, two detectives from Durham police visited the man who blew the whistle on the trip Cummings made to Barnard Castle, 30 miles from his family’s farm near Durham, as part of a police investigation into alleged breaches of the lockdown rules.

They visited Robin Lees, a retired chemistry teacher, at 7.30pm on Monday, two hours after Cummings’ Downing Street press conference.

The detectives took testimony about what Lees had seen on 12 April, when Cummings visited the County Durham beauty spot of Barnard Castle with his family on his wife’s birthday. The aide said he had driven there to test his eyesight, which he said had been affected by the coronavirus, before a planned drive back to London the following day.

On Monday, Cummings admitted to reports, first made in the Guardian and Mirror, that he had driven with his family to the town. He got out of the car near the River Tees for up to 15 minutes, he told the press conference.

Lees’ 30-minute discussion with the police was conducted at a physical distance in an outside area bordering the Tees.

Lees said: “They were very thorough, asking every detail of what I saw. They were not in uniform.

“They asked me a lot about my background. They wanted to know exactly what time it was. They wanted to know if it was a clear day and did I know what Cummings looked like.”

Officers have access to automatic number plate recognition software to check if cameras have caught a vehicle linked to Cummings during the 260-mile journey from London to Durham on 27 March

Durham police face competing pressures. They are concerned not to be drawn into politics and also that their actions are proportionate – at worst, breaches of lockdown laws carry a small fine if paid quickly. The expectation is that the investigation will be completed quickly.

Durham police said on Monday: “We can confirm that, over the last few days, Durham constabulary has received further information and complaints from members of the public and we are reviewing and examining that information.”

Durham’s chief constable, Jo Farrell, received a letter from White asking her to look at all the claims about Cummings’ time in Durham. White wrote: “I have today written to the chief constable, asking her to establish the facts concerning any potential breach of the law or regulations in this matter at any juncture.”

Lees also said that in his local area he could see clear signs of more people venturing out. He said he feared that Cummings’ behaviour had undermined the government’s “stay alert” message. “Interestingly, for the first time ever since lockdown, there were a number of groups not socially distanced there,” he said

SouthWestmom · 26/05/2020 20:22

If she stayed there it wouldn't matter though would it? Apart from him lying. He went back to work and she stayed put.

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ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans · 26/05/2020 20:24

On a different note, I wonder if Mary visited her Dad whilst in lockdown and filled up the car at the same time.

That's why he couldn't answer the question about petrol at the press conference.

GrimmsFairytales · 26/05/2020 20:26

If she stayed there it wouldn't matter though would it?

Perhaps not, but it would be a reason for any additional trips he may have made that way.

whatnametopick · 26/05/2020 20:28

@Noeuf she probably went and stayed with her parents at Chillingham Castle, hence the new sighting

GrimmsFairytales · 26/05/2020 20:30

@ChickenNuggetsChipsAndBeans

On a different note, I wonder if Mary visited her Dad whilst in lockdown and filled up the car at the same time.

That's why he couldn't answer the question about petrol at the press conference.

That's definitely a possibility. He was adamant that he hadn't filled up on the way to Durham, but couldn't remember the more recent drive home.
Belindabelle · 26/05/2020 20:31

It would matter if DC drove up again the next weekend to collect her.

Belindabelle · 26/05/2020 20:34

I think her family would have collected her from Durham or perhaps her in-laws drove her. Her brother Max was staying at Chillingham over Easter.

SouthWestmom · 26/05/2020 20:34

Oh okay.

Tbh this is more about BJ and his weak spot. He can't survive and be remembered as the hero he wanted to be.

He should have acted swiftly and decided DC fate rather than lauding him a hero and allowing the tawdry presser. I think the tide will turn soon and it will look like people taking pot shots at a wounded animal.

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