Shops to reopen on the 15th June

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Just listening to the briefing. So pretty much all back to normal on the 15th apart from education? Does he really think people are going to docilely distance still??

Education is meant to be back to normal by the 15th

Yeah right

@walker1891 primary will not be back to normal by then. The issue is his ‘plan’ doesn’t match with the guidance for schools this term. Even with the limited year groups going back, there isn’t the staff or space in a lot of schools. We can just about do it, but we are full. No more keyworker children or year groups can return.

@MsSafina you have always been able to see your GP. If they felt your issue cannot be dealt with on the telephone or by video consultation, they can bring you in.

How can people go back to work when schools are still closed to most kids?!

My shop will have been closed for 12 weeks by then, and although I have some of the stock on my website it isn't earning me much.

I will be glad to go back, and am putting social distancing measures and hand sanitiser in place - and will comply with any other requirements as they are disclosed.

I need to go back or I won't have a business to go back to, and as I have a further 2 years on my lease I need to earn the money to pay for it :)

No one has said education back to normal by 15th have they?

Earliest was primary back before summer holidays

I've just bought some things from eBay for the children. I have children who are difficult to buy for but I know which shops tend to fit and if they don't then I'll resell them once I can go out and post things when shielding is lifted. Thankfully they don't need school shoes as they are next to impossible at the best of times as they have such awkward feet. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than shop at primark. Or anywhere else that tends to be as busy as there. I prefer to buy good quality second hand anyway but even more so now.

So I can go to John Lewis but can't see my family. Right o.

Good

Things may have changed by 15/6 @AlabamaArkansas so you might able to do both.

You can go to John Lewis and your family can go to John Lewis but you can't see your family because it doesn't generate any tax.

I love John Lewis and have £150 in vouchers to spend there so I'd love to be able to go.

Just on the schools equal childcare point. For the majority of the mums I know they are very reliant on breakfast clubs and after school clubs so that they can work...these will not be running in any form in any of our local schools so those parents are really going to struggle even if schools are open

No idea why people are still listening to these clowns with regards to seeing family.

Education is meant to be back to normal by the 15th. All primary is due back in full time for a month in his plan.

Secretary of State for education said this morning that this part of the plan for primary is "under review" [= not happening, because many schools don't have space or staff to open even for the year groups who HAVE been told they can return, because funnily enough, you can't achieve half class -sized bubbles with social distance between each bubble, and at least some attempt to create space inside each, without doubling the number of classrooms AND staff]

Do you think you will feel comfortable shopping in charity shops? I work for a health sector charity and our shops have closed which takes a huge chunk of our income away. We desperately need for them to open again, but have concerns that people won’t want to shop there for a while.

Itsasecret, I know, I am a teacher. I was just saying that is the plan. I can well imagine him pushing it through because he has no care in the world apart from money and his own penis.

Virus spreads in families first
The economy is fucked if we don’t start the ball rolling. And that’s not some abstract thing that’s everyone’s livelihoods
Risk rises with age so gps are more at risk

However it’s also the case shops need time to set up so who knows what they’ll add wrt families

Three weeks away. Sounds reasonable to me

HighMarking - because my parents are extremely elderly, and 1 senior government aide being a total idiot does not make my parents immune to COVID. Especially as I am back in school full time from next week (no PPE, no effective social distancing, 6+ hours a day with the same children, quite possibly asymptomatic carriers), I cannot risk seeing my parents, and will not be able to even if lockdown is relaxed, because only by quarantining myself for 2 weeks after the end of term could I be regarded as safe to be in contact with the medically vulnerable.

How can people go back to work when schools are still closed to most kids?!

Well apparently "school is not childcare".
It's just coincidental that parents have to put their children somewhere safe during working hours. And even though education of children is normally mandatory, and there's nowhere else for children to go, and most grandparents won't be able to help, the problem of exactly how parents of young children will be able to work in the shops that are opening fall into the "that's your problem" category. Hth.
No. I know, it doesn't.

@WrongKindOfFace we are not providing wrap around care because we can't. Not because we don't want to. We can't mix bubbles.

cantkeepawayforever....I have 3 classes in my school and I can fit 3 children in my 'bubble. Not even 1/10 of my class. That won't stop them pushing through, they were never going to 'review' the opening. It was always the plan for the 1st. They say they will review it to make them look like they are thinking constantly and listening but the reality is, they don't care.

Surely there will be social distancing in shops the same as supermarkets? So yes you may bump into family members but you will still need to distance, same as if you met them in the supermarket car park.

And Covid still remains dangerous to older people.

Thank god. I'll be there for queen & country.