We are the only household on our road following the rules 😡

[MabelX]

Opposite house to the left has has plenty of visitors going in and out.

Elderly couple opposite - their family has been visiting every two or three days.

Bloke opposite to the right has been having parties.

To our right elderly lady has had her adult children round.

To our left were going out repeatedly when it was only allowed once a day, and then a couple of days ago had some friends round.

Next door to them has been the worst, absolute Piccadilly Circus. Visitors, parities, all sorts.

And now next door to that one are having a BBQ with five adults - only two live in the house!

I’ve reported Piccadilly Circus loads but have never seen the police come to talk to her.

It makes me SO angry. We would do anything to see our family and friends and our new baby niece. It’s driving me mad that we are the only people actually following the rules.

No wonder our R rate is so high.

[DownADirtRoad]

Why do people care so much about what other people are doing? Unless they are coming into your house it doesnt affect you.

It does affect everyone. I’m sure you’ve read enough to realise this. I just think there’s no point arguing with people that aren’t following the guidelines. They know they’re not, some can’t wait to tell everyone, they’re not people that you can reason with so it’s not worth trying.

[MrsBlue4]

@Derbygerbil

The OP doesn't know what reasons these people have family round. You want to go to cafes whereas some people may be finding this unbearable to the point of feeling suicidal.

Take care of your own family and make decisions based on your own judgement.

[larrygrylls]

MrsBlue,

I think people, up to a point, should use their own judgment, seeing members of your family clearly falls under this. But, parties are just a ‘no’.

Those having them can do huge damage to others and delay everyone else’s return to normality.

It is like having a barbecue in a dry forest. Of course, most of the time you will be fine but, sometimes, a spark might start a forest fire, killing some and causing huge damage to all.

It is, therefore, everyone’s business. I was talking to someone elderly yesterday (late 70s but very compos mentis). She told me that just before lockdown several of her friends had attended a party. Three of them died of Covid caught at that party.

[Derbygerbil]

@MrsBlue4

The OP clearly isn’t describing a street full of people on suicide watch, with frequent parties being the only thing stopping them from killing themselves.

I’m not a lockdown zealot and my family haven’t always stuck religiously to the rules at all times (only a recently bereaved and vulnerable relative has been to the house though, and haven’t held or attended parties), but my point is that what people do around us does affect us.

Individualism is one the virus’ best friends.

[Alex50]

How on earth are the government going to police what goes on in every ones’s house? The government guidance says not to have people round to your place of residence. There’s no vaccine, we are going to be living like this for a long time, come autumn flu will also be doing the rounds. I don’t see any problem sitting in my mum’s garden 2 metres away for half an hour, you have to do what’s right for you and ignore what everyone else is doing.

[dementedma]

I ( and/or DH) have visted my mother every single day since lockdown. She is 85 and lives alone, prone to falling etc. Mostly we meet in the garden, but as her cleaner cant come I have also gone in and hoovered, changed the bed etc. People arent always visiting other houses just for fun!

[ThisNameisaKeeper]

I've seen a few small gatherings etc and can't get too worked up about it, understand individual circumstances and struggles etc, but on the other hand I'm really struggling too so it's a bit annoying to see others not sticking to guidelines. Of course there's a balance but others actions do affect all of us

I'm seeing a parent on my own for a socially distanced walk at the weekend within guidelines and leaving DC at home with DH and that will really help

[AJPTaylor]

Where are you? People in my road seem to be sticking to it as far as I can tell. We all seem to be a naturally compliant bunch.

[iknowwhatyoudid]

We have tried our best to comply, we have had 4 lockdown birthdays, no visitors, nothing, but we are visiting my mum and dad this weekend. My uncle died 2 weeks ago, my dad lost his job, and then on Wednesday went completely mad and admitted he has been thinking about killing himself. He is seriously struggling with his mental health, so we are going round on Sunday, will sit in the garden and spend a couple of hours with him and my mum. It is needed, otherwise my family will end up with another death because of this lockdown.

[trappedsincesundaymorn]

Well you're certainly being alert Op I'll give you that.....don't think spying on your neighbours was quite what Boris meant though.

[TheShapeJaper]

I wonder how many people who justify going against the “guidelines” are fretting about their children going back to school 🤔 this is a weird thread

[vodkaredbullgirl]

Im either working or sleeping so have not got a fucking clue what others are doing.

[RainMustFall]

The whole point of lockdown was to flatten the peak so that hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed with CV patients and that has been achieved. That's why the experts have relaxed the rules a bit. I'm sure they took into account the likelihood that a percentage of the population would not adhere to the rules. The police don't care if Fred Bloggs had a couple of friends join him for a barbecue as the OP has discovered, having called them multiple times about her neighbour with no result.

Adults must be allowed to make their own decisions in life; thankfully we don't live in a nanny state. I have decided to remain in isolation, others will choose differently and unless those decisions impact on your life, it really is none of your business.

[ihatelockdown]

So what! Just worry about yourselves! I'm sure your lockdown certificate is in the post

[LindainLockdown]

I'm sure most police are laughing now at these reports coming in from sticky beaks.

[TorkTorkBam]

I wonder how many people who justify going against the “guidelines” are fretting about their children going back to school 🤔 this is a weird thread

Eh? What a strange statement.

If you looked at my life you would see my family closely adhering to the guidelines. Mabel wouldn't be calling in the SWAT team. Yet I know that I might choose to balance the risks differently if my circumstances changed. I am lucky, I have an easy lockdown life and can adhere to the letter of the guidelines not just the spirit.

I want my children to go back. They are at very low risk of catching, suffering and spreading. They will be in classrooms with people whose families had BBQs, whose unhinged neighbours called the police (who did nothing of course).

I am OK with that. Why wouldn't I be? I believe people can deliver the outcomes sought by the guidelines (don't overwhelm the NHS) without following the exact letter of the guidelines.

[TheShapeJaper]

It’s not a strange statement at all. Lots of cherry picking going on.

[Hagisonthehill]

I'm not worrying too much about it as most people are meeting outside.This semi lockdown may not cause a spike.
But when cooler weather begins,schools return and activity is driven indoors,then we will get a spike all mixed in with normal colds and flu.

[larrygrylls]

The idea of ‘flattening the peak’ has been abandoned (I thought everyone knew this?!).

The CFR is currently estimated at 1.2%. Based on 60% of the population being infected, that would be about 450,000 dead. Even though most would be old, I think most of us agree that this is not acceptable.

The current strategy is about squeezing the cases to a minimal number and tracking and tracing new cases. This will only work if people are sensible.

So, yes to doing your own reasonable risk assessment but no to behaving how the hell you like.

[MsSafina]

Our adult son came to sit with us in the garden at a good distance apart. I was under the impression you can see one family member at a time. He has mental health problems and been alone in his flat for 2 months.

[okiedokieme]

The community rate is really low now, no new cases in my city for 5 days. Look out for yourself and stop worrying about the rest of us. Some people have very complex lives, it isn't necessarily that we didn't want to follow the rules but couldn't

[Bluntness100]

Is it just me who really really doesn’t wish to to be that person who curtain twitches on their neighbours and reports them to the police.

So many people have turned into that person. I don’t break the rules, but god I’d rather eat my own foot than be spying on my neighbours and calling rhe police on them.

[mencken]

the 'no new cases in London' thing turned out to be a whole bunch of not true.

there is now room in intensive care if needed. Unfortunately the Darwin awards don't go just to the 'free spirits'.

[Spannwr1971]

I've got a neighbor who claps like a demented seal every Thursday, complete with pans, flags and (yesterday), sparklers! All whilst turning a blind eye to her DDs bf coming round the whole time. She runs the local kids nursery, and is there having contact with key workers kids every day. It pissed me off for ages, but then I realised that's all it was doing. I ain't gonna report her, doubt they'd do owt if I did. It's not worth getting stressed about. I don't get if it's cognitive dissonance, or hypocrisy though.

[userxx]

@Bluntness100 No, its not just you. This year has made me realise how nasty some people really are. Very disappointing.