We are the only household on our road following the rules 😡

[MabelX]

Opposite house to the left has has plenty of visitors going in and out.

Elderly couple opposite - their family has been visiting every two or three days.

Bloke opposite to the right has been having parties.

To our right elderly lady has had her adult children round.

To our left were going out repeatedly when it was only allowed once a day, and then a couple of days ago had some friends round.

Next door to them has been the worst, absolute Piccadilly Circus. Visitors, parities, all sorts.

And now next door to that one are having a BBQ with five adults - only two live in the house!

I’ve reported Piccadilly Circus loads but have never seen the police come to talk to her.

It makes me SO angry. We would do anything to see our family and friends and our new baby niece. It’s driving me mad that we are the only people actually following the rules.

No wonder our R rate is so high.

[DownADirtRoad]

The kids need to see their peers

Actually, lots of kids are coping. My kids don’t ‘need’ to see friends although they would like to.

[IcedPurple]

As for no post VE day spike, it's early days.

2 weeks exactly, so no, not early days at all. The usual incubation period is about 5 days, and rarely longer than 14 days. So looks like the 'spike' so many here were gleefully anticipating just isn't going to happen.

[RoosterPie]

I agree with @TheGreatWave . I don’t think you should be judging people having immediate family over outside - you don’t know why they’re there.

I do agree those having parties or people round for BBQs are out of order but the fact you’re criticising people for eg going out more than once per day or having immediate family over outdoors is overkill.

[ScabbyHorse]

They're not roolz they're guidelines.

[Weallhavevalidopinions]

What is it about everyone moaning about how bad everyone else is whilst they are brilliant at following rules?

You concentrate on what you are doing and leave other people to manage their risk.

[b0redb0redb0red]

^^I agree with @TheGreatWave . I don’t think you should be judging people having immediate family over outside - you don’t know why they’re there.

Seconded. A friend's elderly relative is currently in a critical condition because she collapsed for reasons unrelated to COVID-19 and wasn't found for hours. Normally she'd have family popping in and out all the time, but they were too scared of being judged for breaking the lockdown and so checked on her regularly over the telephone instead (which meant that they missed the signs that she was seriously deteriorating which they probably would have caught it they'd actually seen her). Some of my other friends have sheepishly admitted to popping in to see elderly relatives who had become depressed and stopped eating or drinking completely, when that's a completely understandable and natural thing to do. Of course, there's been an exception all along for leaving the house to provide care to a vulnerable person, but nobody seems to know where the line is drawn and a lot of people are so worried about being spied on and judged by neighbours that they're ashamed of looking out for their elderly parents and grandparents.

[bigchris]

@DownADirtRoad are they teenagers ? Because this is the group most affected by mental health, there was one who committed suicide in a park near me last week, directly caused by lockdown, he wrote it in a notebook

[Wewearpinkonwednesdays]

Jeezo, you have been busy keeping tabs on people. Do you keep a diary of everyone's comings and goings?

[iamapixie]

Don't worry too much.
Lockdown works with 75-80% compliance - the government never imagined that they would achieve the high compliance rates that they have - and now people actively terrified to leave their houses.
There may be pockets of non-compliance but not where I live or where any of my friends or family live, so maybe you are just seeing an odd pocket of rebellion... Which won't matter in the grand scheme, and is genuinely extremely unlikely to affect you.
The actual stats on Covid are very calming compared to the media fear machine so if you are worried, read some of the Oxford Uni stuff or the latest out of Stamford; and have a root round on the ONS to put Covid in perspective (though you do have to keep an eye on health anxiety doing that - well, I do: there are a lot of illnesses to be more worried about... But weirdly it is calming to not just focus on Covid)

[DownADirtRoad]

are they teenagers ? Because this is the group most affected by mental health, there was one who committed suicide in a park near me last week, directly caused by lockdown, he wrote it in a notebook

That’s very sad to hear.

I never said all kids are coping though, only that lots are. Mine are. Yes, they’re teens. They would of course love to see their friends but they are coping.

[starsparkle08]

People may have valid reasons for visiting people. I have a disabled child and my mental health is terrible at the moment - I am suicidal . I’ve been told I can see my sister ( and her children) by my social worker and mental health team .
Please don’t assume that people are just doing these things on purpose to break the rules. They may have been advised to do this to protect their own health

[DownstairsMixUp]

Dementors are in full flow tonight

[CannonCaboodle]

Find something to do, OP.

[2468whodoyouappreciate]

Why are so many people being so nasty with their responses on here?

[effingterrified]

We have been following the rules strictly.

I have no idea what my neighbours have been doing on account of I don't spend my time policing me neighbours because that's not my job.

[effingterrified]

And it's still too early for a VE Day spike to show up in the figures, contrary to a PP, as it takes on average 5 days for incubation,but up to 14 days.

It then takes on average 10 days before people are admitted to hospital and 12-18 days before they die, if they are going to.

You then have to add on extensive time for results of tests to be given (where they are even taken) and results of deaths to be recorded, which can be delayed by days of even weeks.

So you probably won't be able to see the effects clearly for at least a months or even months later.

[Lofari]

Wow some harsh comments on here.
It bothers me too OP how some people really aren't abiding by social distancing, i have an extremely vulnerable DS who we are shielding.
But I know we are keeping him safe. Trying not to get so worked up about the behaviour of others now because I can't change it

[SinglePringle]

I’ve followed the Guidelines. Live alone, hadn't seen a friendly face for 8 weeks until last week, when the ‘meet a mate’ guide changed.

Still couldn’t give a shit what other people do. Think you’re crazy for reporting people. No nerves hit here.

[thatmustbenigelwiththebrie]

I can't believe you have actually reported people! George Orwell would love that.

[wallywonker]

Not sure I would report as it is a bit busybody, however, lots of people just seem to be doing whatever. Our neighbours opposite spring to mind with lots of friends and family visiting in the last week or so.

The rules have been relaxed very slightly. Most people think it doesn't apply to them. Frankly, most people are a bit thick.

These are probably the first people to complain about lack of PPE and why they can't get a GP appointment.

[Youneverknowwhatyourgonnaget]

I had my mum round last week she came through the side gate sat really far away from us didn’t go in the house so I just don’t see the problem. She lives on her own and needed company. I was super strict at the start but it’s going on too long and people are struggling.

[larrygrylls]

Torktork’s post is one of the dumbest I have seen in years on here and shows the complete lack of mathematical understanding of even the most basic kind.

Right now, maybe, 1,000 people could throw big parties and, maybe 995 parties would have no one getting sick at all. Great..genius, right? Well, yes, according to Torktork, the 995 are running their parties just right, taking special precautions to screen the invisible virus.

The reality is, if the same 1,000 parties happened the following week, maybe 980 would be infection free and, the following week 920 etc. That is what the natural R rate of this virus implies and the growth is termed exponential. This word actually has a meaning and I suggest some of you look it up and try to educate yourselves.

Aside from that, with most people both trying to work from home and educate their children with limited support from schools, if you have so little to do during the week that you can throw a party or can go to bed late as have no 8AM meeting, I suggest you at least do not disturb those of us working hard in these tough times.

[Derbygerbil]

I find the differences between posters strange. Someone people post saying “everyone I know and on my road seems very compliant” while others are saying “everyone is completely disregarding all the rules!”.

Is this a regional thing I wonder? Have London been “good”... hence their numbers coming down loads, whilst the North have been “bad”.... hence their numbers reducing much more slowly? Where are you OP? (Region is fine - I’m not asking for postcode!)

[Derbygerbil]

@MrsBlue4

Why do people care so much about what other people are doing? Unless they are coming into your house it doesnt affect you.

Yes it absolutely does.... The less people socially distance, the more the virus will spread, and the longer it will take for things to get back to some sort of normality. I want my children to be able to go back to school, go to the hairdressers and go to a cafe etc., but the more people simply think about themselves as individuals, the longer that will take..... so, yes, other people’s behaviour does affect all of our lives.

[puppypuppypuppypuppy]

They aren't breaking any laws so the police won't be interested. The group gathering laws only cover public places, not private residences.
It's against guidance but not against the law.