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COVID lungs 7 weeks plus/ 49 days plus plus

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pinkoneblueone · 15/05/2020 03:19

New thread,

I won't be a very good host as I tend to dip in and out of these things but have filled up the last thread. (Sorry)

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godhelpusall · 17/05/2020 17:51

I just really wish there was a definitive answer about whether the virus is still active at this stage

Moodgie · 17/05/2020 18:07

@godhelpusall Same.

pinkoneblueone · 17/05/2020 18:15

Same @moodgie you have described my day I am on day 70 and my lungs are hurting a bit again. Praying I am immune and my hospital trip has not thwarted our recovery.

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Linus1972 · 17/05/2020 18:28

Yesterday I posted some statistics based on comparing how discussion of symptoms has progressed over the last month or so across the various threads that we've been contributing to. Here, I've looked at all the posts collectively, from 9th April to 15th May, and below summarise some of the main things I've found. In the absence of any proper study of people who have suffered COVID for longer than a month, I wanted to be able to summarise some of the symptoms we have collectively discussed - so that others or newcomers will be able to compare themselves, and hopefully be reassured that what they're experiencing is not unusual (relatively speaking - it is still weird by any other measure). At the moment, websites like NHS111 provide misleading information about long-term symptoms and this caused me considerable anxiety in the earlier weeks when I became ill.

Yesterday I posted some statistics based on comparing how discussion of symptoms has progressed over the last month or so across the various threads that we've been contributing to. Here, I've looked at all the posts collectively, from 9th April to 15th May, and below summarise some of the main things I've found. In the absence of any proper study of people who have suffered COVID for longer than a month, I wanted to be able to summarise some of the symptoms we have collectively discussed - so that others or newcomers will be able to compare themselves, and hopefully be reassured that what they're experiencing is not unusual (relatively speaking - it is still weird by any other measure). At the moment, websites like NHS111 provide misleading information about long-term symptoms (this caused me considerable anxiety in the earlier weeks when I became ill).

214 different people have posted messages between 9th April-15th May, although 120 have posted 5 messages or fewer. The top 5 posters were moodgie (366 posts), egghead (332), godhelpusall (258), pinkoneblueone (202) and fedupofbed (173). Thanks to all of you (especially you five) for your kindness and responsiveness and for helping to keep a record of the progress of your illness. The word sorry occurred 542 times across the 5000 messages I examined. Most of the time it involved posters telling each other they were sorry to hear about their symptoms. This is a very supportive group.

The most talked about body part overall was the chest (1087 mentions), followed by the heart (585), lung/lungs (490), throat (473), stomach/tummy (225), legs/leg (153), muscle/muscles (124), ribs/rib (111), hand/hands (102), arm/arms (101), eye/eyes 86

Discussion of symptoms involved pain/pains/painful (1145), breathing/breathlessness/breathless/sob (937), cough/coughing (495), fatigue(d)/exhausted (443), (lack of) sleep (394), anxiety/anxious (356), inflammation/inflamed (215), fever (189), headache/headaches (188), palpitations (164), dizzy/dizziness (116), nausea (100), asthma (96), pnenmonia (93), taste (93), reflux (84), heartburn (71), chills (65), smell (64), diarrhoea (63), tightness (60), pleurisy (55), costochondritis (48), buzzing (44) (Of this list 14 have applied to me).

The chest was described as pain/pains/painful/hurts/ache/aches/sore 379 times, tight/tightness 156 times and then stabbing 12, burning 43, intermittment 11 and heavy 16 times.

Pain was described as stabbing 13 times, burning 22 times, terrible 12 times, severe 11, worse 29, mild 12, bad, 28 and better 28.

In terms of medication, antibiotics were mentioned most (207 times - most often in the first week I looked at), followed by ibuprofen 113 (in the last week), paracetamol 70, vitamin (59), inhaler (57), turmeric (23), zinc (5), Epsom salts (5), magnesium (4).

Moodgie · 17/05/2020 18:49

@pinkoneblueone Are you having the same symptoms as me? Including the tummy issues?

Lightsabre · 17/05/2020 18:51

Great research @Linus1972 and a really interesting read. Hope someone takes notice of it!

pinkoneblueone · 17/05/2020 18:56

@Moodgie yes, I am freaking out and trying to reason with my self as I know how I felt yesterday the only difference today is my lungs hurt because I was so anxious. I have had pain at the tops of my lungs tonight on the right hand side and my throat is sore and filled with gunk. Hot honey and lemon didn't shift this. I know much of what I am feeling is anxiety too so I need to get a distraction and fast as this will only escalate for me.

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godhelpusall · 17/05/2020 18:57

Amazing work @Linus1972 . Interesting reading

Moodgie · 17/05/2020 19:04

@pinkoneblueone I went to lie down for an hour earlier on and tried to relax, and now I am better than I was but not 100%.
Great job, thank you @Linus1972.

pinkoneblueone · 17/05/2020 19:07

Thank you @Linus1972

@moodgie I need to get my nerves under control I can feel they are getting on top of me

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godhelpusall · 17/05/2020 19:14

@pinkoneblueone what do you have in way of anti anxiety meds? Or do you not?

pinkoneblueone · 17/05/2020 19:16

I literally have Kalms I feel like my lungs are being tugged down a little atm and the feeling is new and is making me feel anxious

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pinkoneblueone · 17/05/2020 19:24

I recognise that this is making me worse currently all of these symptoms. I need to go for a walk and try and colour in and stay off social media for a bit again. I may go quiet again for a bit I need to take some time out.

intermountainhealthcare.org/blogs/topics/live-well/2017/05/the-physical-side-of-anxiety/

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fedupofbed · 17/05/2020 19:24

Thank you so much @Linus1972 , that must have taken you ages. What an interesting read, and certainly sums up what we've been going through. And I have the dubious honour of being in the top 5 posters, whoop!

@pinkoneblueone I can empathise with the anxiety as when it gets a grip it can be hard to shake, and you must be absolutely exhausted too after yesterday. All I can suggest is lying down quietly and doing some diaphragmatic breathing, maybe watching some mindless television?

godhelpusall · 17/05/2020 19:30

@pinkoneblueone is it worth asking for antidepressants or anxiety medication? I am on citalopram and might ask for Valium. Just in case it gets worse.

Norugratsatall · 17/05/2020 19:32

@hollieberrie thanks for asking. Dizziness is much improved but T is awful.... I'm sorry you're still suffering! Good that you've got an ENT referral though, if it is blocked tubes, it's easily treated with nasal sprays etc . I've had that myself before I got Covid. It responded well to treatment. It's the inflammation caused by my immune response which I believe are causing the current ear problems. So I'm just whacking it with ibuprofen.

LetsBeSensible · 17/05/2020 19:35

@Linus1972 how fascinating. I wonder if there is somewhere you could send the information through to? Was it @godhelpusall who organised the survey monkey?
I know that PaulGardner is on Twitter as PaulGardnerWoof although as he is still ill, he might not want to look at our research!
Also I wonder if women are affected by the long-tail “mild” (aka no hospital admission) COVID? Shout out to the guys, but were are majority female. Anyone got a view on the slack groups gender split?

Norugratsatall · 17/05/2020 19:37

@Linus1972 a very interesting read - thank you for posting. Good to hear how supportive the thread has been, referenced by the word 'sorry'.

Rosesofeyam · 17/05/2020 19:56

Day 60

Had a slow day.
Feeling a little rough mainly due to my other conditions as I had the same issues before getting this virus.
I get a flare up which seems to make the post virus symptoms a lot worse.
The cold and damp weather isn't helping matters.

On the plus side I did manage to sleep 8 hours last night. A first for me.

linus very interesting when you compare everyones symptoms together.

I hope that we get the recognition and understanding of what we are going through. Time will tell. Thank you.

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godhelpusall · 17/05/2020 20:03

@LetsBeSensible no. I'm interested in doing some research but am waiting on feedback from my uni

godhelpusall · 17/05/2020 20:04

@Rosesofeyam what are your preexisting conditions?

MummyPop00 · 17/05/2020 20:12

48 days for me, so I join this club tomorrow.

Still having SOB episodes (though not as frequent as they were) and also likely pleurisy (diagnosed with GP via phone)

What’s the general medical advice you have all been receiving if any?

Is it just ‘rest & tough it out’ Indefinitely?

Surely an x-ray should be in order at some point to check for lung scarring if apparent at least?

godhelpusall · 17/05/2020 20:34

I'm so worried about my daughter. She was ill for weeks - mainly sinus, nausea, dizziness but has seemed better for a few weeks. This morning she said she had a weird cough and this evening she has a slight temperature.
Do I ring drs again tomorrow?

LetsBeSensible · 17/05/2020 20:39

@godhelpusall I say call them.
My thinking is it can only be helpful, whether that’s because the GP can do something for her, or do something to reassure you, and the note on her record- you never know when that might help.

Egghead68 · 17/05/2020 20:43

Really interesting @Linus1972. Thanks so much for doing that and posting it.

@Rosesofeyam sorry you are having a rough day. I hope you can get a reasonable night’s sleep and you feel better in the morning.

@pinkoneblueone I’m sorry your anxiety is so bad today. If you are having racing thoughts as part of it, simply saying “the... the... the...” under your breath can help block them. If your head’s full of worries, maybe try to visualise them floating away like leaves on a stream or balloons in the air. Headspace is good if you like mindfulness and there are some NHS relaxation videos on YouTube (if you can find a progressive muscular one that’s quite good for the physical symptoms). Very detail-focused tasks e.g. embroidery or puzzles are a good distraction. Sorry to restate what you probably know. Hope you can get some relief soon.

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