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Why are people not more angry about the government's handling of the crisis?

212 replies

jobhunter7 · 14/05/2020 14:22

Or are the newspaper not giving an accurate picture of people's feelings?

33,186 deaths recorded so far.

Surely plenty of these people had families and friends?

I suppose they can't really march at the moment.

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caringcarer · 16/05/2020 00:37

We have to quarentine French now because VdL will take UK to ECJ court if we do not make French quarentine but do make other 27 EU countries. The quicker we leave that brattish club the better.

ragged · 16/05/2020 05:54

Most people I know are angry with the government. We locked down way too late....

I'm very unhappy about Lockdown... I think it's been too harsh - or rather, pointlessly too harsh. I find myself on the side of people who use words like 'sheeple' & Toby Young: basically, people who say & believe things that are abhorrent.

I'm not a rabid right winger in denial, yet I don't see covid as dangerous enough for the economic & training/education damage being done. There is no way me being angry about it would help my situation, though. You guys who are so sure you want harsher lockdown will win. The most emotional people usually do. Fear > anger in the emotional wars, I guess you know that.

bellinisurge · 16/05/2020 08:17

Yes, because calling people "sheeple" and thinking you know better than everyone really wins people over to your point of view. What's the R number in your area? Or is that all conspiracy theory stuff too?

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 16/05/2020 09:30

I find all the criticisms of a late lockdown bizarre becaue SAGE was all for delaying it, but it was Cummings who shouldn't even be on the SAGE committee who pushed for it.

I notice in the Mail today that there is huge criticism of the way Wales has dealt with this crisis and I just wonder who is falling for all this nonsense of blaming the govt. The Welsh govt is not responsible for the day to day running of the NHS, neither are they responsible for contingency planning. Any govt guidelines given for the release of patients from Health to Social care would have been guided by the advice of the NHS, who lets face it probably saw this as a chance to lose their "bedblockers" and seized it. BJ is already saying to the 1922 committee that PHE needs reform and I don't suppose that the Welsh equivalent is any better.

There are clearly a lot of very senior people in NHS management paid vast sums of money who are not up to the job and don't mind displaying that inefficiency to the world. For example PHE having failled so speactacularly to centralise and control covid tesing internally before private labs shamed them and were allowed on board still felt able to take 10 days longer than any other country to approve the Roche antibody test.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/15/boris-johnson-no-public-sector-pay-freeze-no-austerity-uk-emerges/

Clavinova · 16/05/2020 09:33

Clavinova- Do you have any criticism ever of the government or BJ?

Yes, but I like to check out the facts first.

KuckFnows · 16/05/2020 09:35

The media have been shambolic and appalling throughout this crisis.

In terms of Labour, they are doing amazingly well at the smoke and mirrors tactics, as usual.

I actually haven't heard them do anything other than consistently criticise.

I just thank my lucky stars we don't have Jeremy and Diane leading us through this, as that would not even bear contemplating.

Thankfully the majority saw sense back in December. 👍

Oblomov20 · 16/05/2020 09:39

Telegraph is critical of herd.

Clavinova · 16/05/2020 09:43

Have any European countries rolled out the antibody test yet?

May 5 - "Germany on Monday announced it has secured millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but will only use them after ethics are debated."

"The idea revolves around the fact that the blood tests could identify those who have already recovered from the virus and have immunity, which could enable them to get back to normal life sooner. However, the idea sparked concerns over dividing society in a locked-down part of the population and a “free” one."

www.neweurope.eu/article/germany-wont-use-antibody-tests-until-ethics-are-debated/

RickOShay · 16/05/2020 09:49

@Randomschoolworker19
I completely agree with you. What angers me the most is the lack of test and trace. This surely is the way out of this. I don’t trust this government and don’t feel that it has people’s best interests at heart.

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 16/05/2020 09:54

I agree that the press have been awful. The Daily Mail keeps us in a state of fear and have warned of shortages of food, paracetamol, electricity and endless other things, whilst the Guardian fills us with self-loathing and claims that numerous countries are laughing at us and the only way to be saved is to cancel Brexit.
I follow EU news extensively, I cover one country but colleagues cover others and provide summaries. Nobody is laughing at anyone and nobody else in Europe cares about brexit because there is now a very real fear that the whole EU is about to fall apart.

NiteFlights · 16/05/2020 11:25

I find all the criticisms of a late lockdown bizarre becaue SAGE was all for delaying it, but it was Cummings who shouldn't even be on the SAGE committee who pushed for it.

In a social nudging sense it felt like they’d timed it about right - people were ready and willing to do it, if it had been earlier they would have been reluctant. I think some restrictions could/should have been brought in earlier, but the real issue seems to be that not much has been done while lockdown is going on in terms of testing, tracking and tracing. It’s quite baffling really and undoes a lot of the government’s success in managing lockdown.

user1497207191 · 16/05/2020 16:13

I agree that the press have been awful.

All media actually. BBC and ITV have been atrocious with constant mis-reporting. They spent weeks harrassing the govt about wanting a road map for getting out of lockdown and then spent days criticising Boris's idea of what it may look like, after constantly saying they just wanted an idea. Laura and Peston don't deserve their jobs.

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